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Originally posted by mattholl
The concept of demons taking over and feelings of not being alone are alikened to a normal psychologcial state of mind. We have all experienced 'the horrors' where you are walking home at night and keep thinking you can hear someone behind you or been in bed and heard a noise and felt vulnerable. This and 99.9% of cases like this when you logically look at them can be attributed to a fear and an active imagination. n this case you have just been thinking about something and you then are alone in your room a fear from an expectation of someone looking through a window (a common thing that most people find themselves thinking due to the fact its human nature to look through windows and most horror/scifi films show these type of scenes) then is doubled by the fact your imagination goes back to your thoughts regarding aliens and demons and away goes the imagination.
Originally posted by etoibmys
reply to post by Zane Zackerly
Yes, demons exist but they only prey on those with weak souls. What do you think voodoo is?
Originally posted by Zane Zackerly
Originally posted by mattholl
The concept of demons taking over and feelings of not being alone are alikened to a normal psychologcial state of mind. We have all experienced 'the horrors' where you are walking home at night and keep thinking you can hear someone behind you or been in bed and heard a noise and felt vulnerable. This and 99.9% of cases like this when you logically look at them can be attributed to a fear and an active imagination. n this case you have just been thinking about something and you then are alone in your room a fear from an expectation of someone looking through a window (a common thing that most people find themselves thinking due to the fact its human nature to look through windows and most horror/scifi films show these type of scenes) then is doubled by the fact your imagination goes back to your thoughts regarding aliens and demons and away goes the imagination.
That is patently not true. This entity was as real as a charging grizzly bear.
There is no way it was just imagination.edit on 9/26/12 by Zane Zackerly because: spelling error
Originally posted by kisharninmah
Originally posted by etoibmys
reply to post by Zane Zackerly
Yes, demons exist but they only prey on those with weak souls. What do you think voodoo is?
That's a horrible thing to say and the reason why religion is the real evil in this world. It sets up its believers to exalt themselves over others.
Demons and all that nonsense is a fairy tale - all of it. Religion is a coping mechanism, a scape goat and a rule by fear mechanism.
Ever heard of the Placebo Effect and the self-fulfilling prophecy? If not, look it up.edit on 26-9-2012 by kisharninmah because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by mattholl
Science and everything we as a race have proven contradicts all religion.
Originally posted by mattholl
Religion is a control mechanism for the masses, run by people of ignornace beyound belief. Science and everything we as a race have proven contradicts all religion. And from all the creation stories how is god making a man rise from the dead anymore believable than giants legends in norse myth or any other unbelieveable fairy story
Originally posted by Zane Zackerly
Originally posted by mattholl
Religion is a control mechanism for the masses, run by people of ignornace beyound belief. Science and everything we as a race have proven contradicts all religion. And from all the creation stories how is god making a man rise from the dead anymore believable than giants legends in norse myth or any other unbelieveable fairy story
These attacks on religion are getting old and starting to sound like a bunch of "me too" posts.
What I experienced was real. I guarantee you I could pass any polygraph test and I would swear in court that what I experienced was not my imagination.
I hate using condescening language like "you weren't there", but ultimately that is the case.
A person who has not experienced it probably cannot fully appreciate the experience.
Originally posted by mattholl
reply to post by Zane Zackerly
this is just the point though experiences can seem real fear changes perception and makes dangers irrationally large. Take people who have phobias of minor things such as sunflowers, etc... to them in their mind there is a genuine danger and they react to it irrationally, like they were immediately in danger, when in the cold light of day and rational thinking there is no danger at all. what you are claiming makes no sense even on here, and sounds like someone reacting irrationally in a situation where something triggered fear and and irrational reaction
Originally posted by kisharninmah
So take a chill pill and find out what I meant before pouncing
Originally posted by OMsk3ptic
Originally posted by mattholl
Science and everything we as a race have proven contradicts all religion.
Sorry, but this is a lie.
Job 26:7 He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing.
Yeah, science has proven this wrong, not confirmed it, huh?
Originally posted by mattholl
reply to post by Zane Zackerly
in relation to religion discussions and all the believers quoting scripture, please explain to me how the dinosaurs fit into your creation story. If god created the earth and the world and put man on it, what were the dinosaurs? jigsaws for us to find? How does it explain the whole universe as god created humans on earth why build an entire universe if we are the only people in it? There is no mention of the various ice ages that the planet has undergone.
All religions are ways to control people. Its a human saying "do what i say", the masses saying "why should we?"
and the human saying" because.....god told me this is how we should all act". It just so happens it was a man who was told the rules in nearly all religion and it has always just happened that religion favours males and is setup to benefit men. In fact the more you go into religion the more corrupt and based on lies it appears
Originally posted by Zane Zackerly
Originally posted by kisharninmah
So take a chill pill and find out what I meant before pouncing
I was responding to mattholl, not you