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Originally posted by AfterInfinity
reply to post by rwfresh
You think it's funny, or you think it's true?
"Zeteticism is is in direct contradiction to the Scientific Method, where one begins with a hypothesis and builds his work off of that. Purveyors of the Scientific Method seek to ‘stand on the shoulders of giants’, building one hypothesis upon the next in mumbling pretension until we have house of cards model of the universe consisting nothing but undiscovered phenomena like graviton particles and dark matter to glue the entire horrid mess together. "
Originally posted by Panic2k11
reply to post by rwfresh
Even if we disagree with their beliefs we should applaud the capacity and interest in challenging the mainstream. Science is not perfect it should provide some comfort to us that there is some part of humanity that can passionately pursue the art of disbelief and spend some effort in confronting even the most basic ideas about our reality.
Having said that, the interview was fine but for someone that read what was posted and not much else as I do not share the same belief. I am nevertheless interested on how they support it. In that aspect the interview questions were weak, even if some interesting "zetetist" (??) background was openly given.
Circumnavigation (or the example with planes would be a challenge). I think they could go for a very complex resolution like the infinite plane looping, like a mouse that goes out of the corner of a screen just to reaper in the opposite side. In any way i do not think that they themselves take the mater more seriously than to make a point about the capacity to object to the status quo and preserve the society history. In the interviews there are even different views...
In any case "Scientific Method, where one begins with a hypothesis and builds his work off of that..." is an incorrect or incomplete statement, the method focuses on proving theories false and not in blindingly building a huge castle of cards. The problem with science today is that very few scientists do real science, mostly because of costs and complexity as science advances the obvious and simple is quickly overtaken what remains takes much more resources to uncover.edit on 11-9-2012 by Panic2k11 because: (no reason given)
The term 'Zetetic' is formally defined as "one who proceeds by inquiry; a seeker." In modern usage, the term 'inquiry' is understood as 'critical inquiry,' and the zetetic is therefore best considered a 'skeptical seeker.'
Zeteticism, then, is the principle and practice of being a zetetic, a skeptical seeker. In plainer terms, it is an open-minded yet realistic approach to matters of truth, philosophy, and religion. It is based in critical thinking.
In that Zeteticism is a skeptical worldview, it is generally humanistic in its approach. This is to say that since traditional mythologies and ideas are examined critically, the zetetic worldview tends toward secular humanism.
Zeteticism is not dogmatic, nor does it eschew concepts such as spirituality and numinous experience. It is generally open-minded toward most ideas, but it encourages discernment based on logic, reason, and critical thought.
Originally posted by BigFrigginAl
See...now this is one of the big reasons I joined ATS...not for all the political threads of late, but just an interesting read, on a, well, interesting belief. Much like the hollow earth theory...I'm not a subscriber to either, and I often wonder how people can steadfastly believe these, however, no different than believing in bigfoot, UFO's or anything else...thanks for the interesting thread.
Yes, we can fly around the world and see that it is round, to our own eyes. But are our eyes all there is to know about the facts. Many physicists who have done work involving dimensions will tell you no.
Originally posted by James1982
The moon is round, the sun is round, we can see both, we know they are round. It's perfectly logical that the Earth is round too.
Originally posted by _Phoenix_
The earth is flat if you live in the Netherlands.