I created a general thread
asking members for an
interview, a member of the forum told me this of Tom Bishop
Do you believe the earth to be completely flat or more of a bowl shape?
Your best bet for an interview IMHO is Tom Bishop. He knows everything there is to know about flat earth theory and he is an interesting character at
the very least - if you are lucky he may oblige. The Round Earthers here hate him, but that should give you some idea of how formidable he can be in
debate. He also rarely does interviews so yours wouldn't be like all the Shenton/Davis interviews that you can google.
The earth is flat.
When did you first start believing the earth was flat?
I first heard about the Flat Earth Society on CNN about 11 years ago. Former FES president Charles K. Johnson appeared on television to give an
interview on national television describing his beliefs about the earth. The concept of a group of intellectuals who believed that the earth was flat
intrigued me, prompting me to look further. After some months playing with the idea I finally ordered a copy of Earth Not a Globe, the premiere manual
on Flat Earth Theory.
Earth Not a Globe was written in the mid 1800‘s by a medical doctor named Samuel Birley Rowbotham. Dr. Rowbotham starts his work as an honest
inquiry into the shape of the Earth, starting afresh without interpreting the results of experiments to any one particular predisposition. He calls
his method of inquiry Zeteticiscm, where tests are tried and facts are collected without building upon any particular hypothesis or theory.
Zeteticism is is in direct contradiction to the Scientific Method, where one begins with a hypothesis and builds his work off of that. Purveyors of
the Scientific Method seek to ‘stand on the shoulders of giants’, building one hypothesis upon the next in mumbling pretension until we have house
of cards model of the universe consisting nothing but undiscovered phenomena like graviton particles and dark matter to glue the entire horrid mess
Rowbotham made me disgusted with the Newtonian and every other theory. His work compelled me to realize that astronomers are not scientists like other
scientists. They cannot put the universe under controlled conditions to come to the truth of the matter, as a chemist can with his subject matter. An
astronomer can only observe and interpret. Stephan Hawking never performed any experiments on the universe before publishing his works, for example.
Nor did Newton or Copernicus. Even in the 1800‘s, Rowbotham saw that the bulk of astronomy was based on hypothesis and conjecture.
As a form of empiricism, Zeteticsm is the more honest approach to science. Direct evidence is demanded in all things. A Zetetic is a free-thinker; one
whose views are based on logic and reason independent of authority.
Is it possible for one to reach the edge? If so what would they see?
It is not possible for one to reach the edge. The earth is an infinite plane.
Do you think the round earth is a huge government lie? If so, why would they spend all those resources and time to keep the public in the
This is a common assumption people have when visiting our website -- that there is some elaborate conspiracy hiding the shape of the earth or
otherwise tricking the public into believing that it is round. But the government is not hiding the shape of the earth. They are simply mistaken.
There is a conspiracy, but it has nothing to do with hiding the shape of the earth. The purpose of NASA is to fake the concept of space travel to
further America's militaristic dominance of space. That was the purpose of NASA's creation from the very start: To put ICBMs and other weapons into
space (or at least appear to). The sentiment of a desire to explore space was nothing more than a front.
See this quote from president Lyndon Johnson:
"Control of space means control of the world. From space, the masters of infinity
would have the power to control the earth's weather, to cause drought and flood,
to change the tides and raise the levels of the sea, to divert the gulf stream and
change temperate climates to frigid. There is something more important than the
ultimate weapon. And that's the ultimate position. The position of total control
over the Earth that lies somewhere in outer space."
-President Lyndon Johnson, Statement on Status of Nation's Defense and Race for
Space, January 7, 1958
One month later, Lyndon Johnson and the Senate Special Committee on Space and Astronautics drafted a resolution to change the name of the US Army's
Ballistic Missile Arsenal to the National Aeronautics and Space Administration.
NASA's early rocket research is well documented to have been a complete failure, plagued by one disaster after another. At some point, perhaps after
the Apollo 1 disaster, it was decided to fake the space program outright and use rockets which only needed to fly into the air until they disappeared
from sight. NASA went from nearly every launch being a failure to a near flawless track record, able to land man on the moon multiple times without
error, and with only two public spectacles of failure in 45 years.
The earth is portrayed as round in NASA media because NASA thinks it's round. They are not in the business of running a real space program, so they
wouldn't know what shape the earth truly takes. At the time of NASA's creation the general population already believed that the earth was round, based
on the handed down teachings of the Ancient Greeks, which is why it was depicted in that manner. As with everyone else in the country, the people at
NASA were brainwashed with the fiction of a globe earth from the cradle, so there was no doubt in their mind as how to display it.
What are your beliefs on the Moon Landings and the recent curiosity rover on mars?
What about amateur pictures from weather balloons where you can supposedly see the curvature of the planet?
Real. At the edge of space you are looking down on a circle of light, and will therefore see some slight curvature to the horizon.
Do you believe in aliens, and what do you make of their supposed link to ancient civilizations?
I don’t believe in aliens and I am not religious.
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