Gays have the right to marry and always have

Originally posted by thehoneycomb
reply to post by kaylaluv

 

They don't call them african americans where you are from?

Besides, she's not part of the negro race. Assume things much?

edit on 7-9-2012 by thehoneycomb because: (no reason given)

They didn't call them African-Americans back when interracial marriage was illegal. Negros was one of the nicer things they called them. So, because your wife is not black, you agree with how things were back then? Are do you agree that they were being ignorant and small-minded?

Originally posted by thehoneycomb
reply to post by Honor93

 

It's atonomical, not religious. But feel free to take it up with the man upstairs if you have a problem with that.

i don't consult illusions or an imaginary man upstairs but thanks for the suggestion.
atonomical ??
do you mean anatomical ??

sorry, but science has long passed the necessity for anatomically physical connections.
if you support IVF, then you have to support "different" familial structures.
so, why not a gay foundation ??

reply to post by Wrabbit2000

Apparently by reading the guidelines, time isn't important either way. Hmm..

which was exactly my point although facts like these must be discovered else they be argued to death. In the state i currently reside, common-law marriage is not honored at all, period, regardless the public presentation, verbal agreement, engagement, co-habitation or intent.
glad to see it was an eye-opener for some

Originally posted by thehoneycomb
reply to post by momoney

 

No, but the LGBTQ community is trying to destroy the constitution and the United States with these types of issues. How is that arrogant of me?

I have every right to stand up for my children and my rights as a parent not to be trampled on by the LGBTQ community which advocates communism and socialism.

How is that arrogant of me?

woooaaaaah, please put down the paintbrush and open your eyes !!!
not all members of the LGBTQ are even political let alone activists.
not all members advocate communism or socialism.
could you be any more stereotypical ??
i thought you wanted a serious discussion here, guess i was wrong.

how are they (LGBT community) destroying any Constitutional principles ?
what rights do you think are being trampled on by said community ??

reply to post by thehoneycomb

The Equal Protection Clause, part of the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution, provides that "no state shall ... deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

+

en.wikipedia.org...

You should read the constitution sometime

There where actualy two men in the biblical ages who where married, they where respected and knowns as husbands, they went seprate ways to fight wars or something to that effect and sadly where killed by enimies. so this garbage saying its against the bible is only a lie and manipulation of homophobic individuals that have campaigned till today to repress others just because they are not gay.

Not really.

When the government starts F#king with your kids. You can tell me how small minded I am.

reply to post by Honor93


Gay is not a foundation.

Try again...and get right with the man upstairs.

reply to post by Honor93

Originally posted by Honor93

Originally posted by thehoneycomb
reply to post by momoney

 

No, but the LGBTQ community is trying to destroy the constitution and the United States with these types of issues. How is that arrogant of me?

I have every right to stand up for my children and my rights as a parent not to be trampled on by the LGBTQ community which advocates communism and socialism.

How is that arrogant of me?

woooaaaaah, please put down the paintbrush and open your eyes !!!
not all members of the LGBTQ are even political let alone activists.
not all members advocate communism or socialism.
could you be any more stereotypical ??
i thought you wanted a serious discussion here, guess i was wrong.

how are they (LGBT community) destroying any Constitutional principles ?
what rights do you think are being trampled on by said community ??

For you I give you the platform of the socialist community. Any other questions?


socialistparty-usa.net...

Socialist Strategy
Socialist Feminism and Women's Liberation
Socialist feminism confronts the common root of sexism, racism and classism: the determination of a life of oppression or privilege based on accidents of birth or circumstances. Socialist feminism is an inclusive way of creating social change. We value synthesis and cooperation rather than conflict and competition.

We work against the exploitation and oppression of women who live with lower wages, inferior working conditions and subordination in the home, in society and in politics. Socialists struggle for the full freedom of women and men to control their own bodies and reproductive systems and to determine their own sexual orientation.

We stand for the right of women to choose to have a safe and legal abortion, at no cost, regardless of age, race, or circumstance.
Women’s independent organizations and caucuses are essential to full liberation, both before and after the transformation to socialism. Women will define their own liberation.

Liberation of Oppressed People
Bigotry and discrimination help the ruling class divide, exploit, and abuse workers here and in the Third World. The Socialist Party works to eliminate prejudice and discrimination in all its forms. We recognize the right of self-defense in the face of attacks; we also support non-violent direct action in combating oppression. We fully support strong and expanded affirmative action programs to help combat the entrenched inertia of a racist and sexist system which profits from discrimination and social division.

People of color, lesbians and gays, and other oppressed groups need independent organization to fight oppression. Racism will not be eliminated merely by eliminating capitalism.

reply to post by RealSpoke


Theres no law that supports gays getting special rights or you for that matter so try again.

reply to post by thehoneycomb


Gays only want equal right's, nothing more. The right to receive the same social benefits as a male & female couple.

All this talk of marriage is just more christian nonsense. We are not swan's or penguins.

Originally posted by RealSpoke

Pretty STUPID to post with RACIAL BAITING ! If you can't do better than that, you have got real problems and issues.

Ok...no more questions?

Let me explain something to you people.

It does not matter if you are gay or straight or white or black to me.

I like everyone.

What I don't like is people who mob around sobbing about how bad their life is.

My life wasnt that great either. But I try not to complain.

Life is whatever it is and for that I am grateful.

Everyday has new beginnings.

Originally posted by Tahnya86
There where actualy two men in the biblical ages who where married, they where respected and knowns as husbands, they went seprate ways to fight wars or something to that effect and sadly where killed by enimies. so this garbage saying its against the bible is only a lie and manipulation of homophobic individuals that have campaigned till today to repress others just because they are not gay.

Really ?

Look this up in YOUR bible if you have one.

The Book of Leviticus, Chapter 18, verse 22 .....
Which says:

American Standard Version - 22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

reply to post by Labrynth2012


these people are godless.

There is no sense trying to reason with them.

Originally posted by Honor93

Originally posted by thehoneycomb
reply to post by Honor93

 

I am saying that marriage is a union between man and woman. Gays have the right to marry and they always have.

then i'd like you to post a historical source for such information (not a biblical one)
in other words, by WHOSE definition, yours ??

until DOMA, neither SCOTUS or Congress established a specific definition of marriage.
the Church did and the State/local legislative bodies endorsed it.
doesn't make it right.
besides, that is not how the American system of equality was meant to be exercised.

For your information, the Bible is a Historical Source of information on the subject and is the primary source.

reply to post by thehoneycomb


Who made these "godless" people?

reply to post by Dark Ghost


"What" made them godless people?

reply to post by thehoneycomb
well ok ... for the past 45yrs, you've been small-minded. details are a nunya.

if gay isn't a foundation, what is in your small mind ?
oh yeah, imaginary friends ... nevermind.

pssssst ... the son of your man upstairs told me a secret many years ago ... do you want me to share ??

how does a specific political platform answer any of the questions i posed ??

i asked for specific rights that you think have been trampled. (you know, done not suggested)
i asked if you could be any more stereotypical so i guess that answer would be YES.
also, i asked how the community is destroying Constitutional principles.

any chance you could answer the questions posed instead of going off on a tangent about non-applicable platforms ??

what "special" rights ??
you don't have any "special" rights, why should they ?

obtaining the same favoritism/privilege extended to a certain group of ppl is equality and balance not special treatment.

It does not matter if you are gay or straight or white or black to me.

yeah, right
but if i was a purple people-eater then i should be what ?? persecuted, killed, maimed or just locked-up ??

this is the only comment with which we would agree ...

Everyday has new beginnings

yes they do and hopefully soon they will arrive with less and less stigmata, prejudice and oppression of yesteryear.

reply to post by Labrynth2012

For your information, the Bible is a Historical Source of information on the subject and is the primary source.

actually, it isn't ... it's a false, incomplete, re-write as a collection of stories that may or may not apply to individual situations in life.
to me, a historical reference has relevance ... your Bible, not so much.