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exactly why i asked ... cause you haven't voiced an opinion in this thread.
Originally posted by karen61057
reply to post by Honor93
Why ask me? I have not voiced any opinion one way or the other.
that's all well and good, i find you rather belittling and arrogant but to each their own, right ?
Oh and I find you slightly patronizing.
good for you, glad to hear you've made it that far
I am 55 years old. Thank you very much.
On a serious note, it'll die out. The ignorance always does, for the most part. Hopefully. Maybe. We have work to do.
Originally posted by StalkerSolent
On a serious note, it'll die out. The ignorance always does, for the most part. Hopefully. Maybe. We have work to do.
I'm always a bit puzzled by people who make this argument. People with views similar to the OPs have been prevalent for most of history, despite intense persecution. Also, people with fundamentalist views tend to outbreed their competition. I kinda think that, in the end, the fundamentalists will win. It's merely a matter of time.
Originally posted by Labrynth2012
Originally posted by Tahnya86
There where actualy two men in the biblical ages who where married, they where respected and knowns as husbands, they went seprate ways to fight wars or something to that effect and sadly where killed by enimies. so this garbage saying its against the bible is only a lie and manipulation of homophobic individuals that have campaigned till today to repress others just because they are not gay.
Really ?
Look this up in YOUR bible if you have one.
The Book of Leviticus, Chapter 18, verse 22 .....
Which says:
American Standard Version - 22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
Although the institution of marriage pre-dates reliable recorded history, many cultures have legends concerning the origins of marriage.
Originally posted by StalkerSolent
reply to post by kaylaluv
Well, there is truth to that. I think slavery is more widespread and acceptable than most of us imagine. I also think that, unlike slavery, marriage is a centerpiece of many fundamentalist religions. Fundamentalist Christianity does not need or even particularly want slavery, but considers homosexuality a sin and marriage sacred. I think the same is true for Islam; although from what I know of it, it has instructions concerning slavery, slavery is not as integral to its belief system.
In other words, I think Christianity and Islam and other more fundamentalist religions can accept (and have accepted) doctrinally the abscence of slavery as an institution, but they consider marriage, as they understand it, fundamental to the way they view the world-unlike slavery. In their eyes, slavery is a human institution; marriage a Divine one.
Ironically, it's more fundamentalist versions of religions like Islam and Christianty that tend to condemn practices like abortion. I'm seeing this paying off in the long run, as homosexuals and more "progressive" minded individuals are more likely to abort their children, if they have them at all. I'm sure Darwin would make some interesting observations were he here today.
Originally posted by kaylaluv
I think fundamentalist Christians are a dying breed. The new generation of Christians are more moderate and tolerant in their beliefs. Future generations will be even more moderate. For example, my grandparents were uneducated country folk, and were "old school" fundamentalist Christians - and very close-minded as a result. My mother, even though she was raised by these fundamentalists, did not follow that close-minded ideology once she grew up and got out into the world. I am even more tolerant than my mother was, and do not consider myself a religious person at all. It does have to do with education and exposure to the real world. Those kids who are not highly educated, and grew up in the same small town as their parents, tend to more closely follow their parents' ideology. Most people do tend to move away from their parents however, so you will only see small pockets of multi-generational fundamentalists.
Opinion polls over the years are showing us that the current generation is much more accepting of gays and gay marriage than previous generations were. While the polls may be fairly evenly divided today, polls from 20-30 years ago were definitely overwhelmingly against gays and gay unions. The times, they are definitely changing.