reply to post by Taupin Desciple
I try to change peoples' minds by staying on my level when I should be more accommodating to theirs, and that in turn makes me come across as a jerk.
But all in all. I agree with you. Children are being graded based on how well they conform to the curriculum given to them, not so much by what they
learn from it. I see that method being carried into adulthood as well. If you don't conform to whatever standards that the people around you have,
they don't see you as being as smart as they are.
Ah... K I understand, I do that myself sometimes and it really can hinder communication. I see it at the angle that they are ONLY learning to conform
to whatever the government sees fit.
I know you understand, I am going to give a quick example for others who might not fully get it. I will use you in my example as a parent, I hope that
is ok with you.
Say for example the curriculum objective is to change all the children's attitude about our country. Say we want the attitude to be that our system of
government is unfair and should be changed to help all people. I Have 20 kids (age 6) in the classroom that in order to pass this lesson and get an
"A", they must have the attitude that Our system of government is unfair and should be changed to help all people.
I tell them that greedy people consume so much that other people don't even have the basics needs to live on.
During the lesson, I pile the kids on the bus and drive them through the worst neighborhood in the area and point out the poor condition (I am
appealing visually to the emotions). I go through the alley and show them a homeless person sleeping against a dumpster.
Now that I have these kids sad and mad at greedy people, I will give positive reinforcement by agreeing and confirming the feelings that met my
objective. Then, I will take them back to the classroom and talk about all the comforts the kids in the classroom enjoy at home. I will ask if that
is fair? I will appeal to their emotions to get the desired objective met. I provoked sadness and anger at a type of people (in this case, anyone who
has it comfortable), and now I have provoked guilt.
Now, most kids because they are so young will learn it is unfair for them to have more than other people. Don't worry, I will make sure they can
blame their parents so they don't feel too bad because it is their parents who should know better Not once do I explain any reason why people might
have more or less....that is not going to meet my objective....my objective is to change the attitude.
So, I ask the kids what can the government do to fix this problem. By asking the question the way I did, I just created the conditions in which they
are permitted to find the answer. They can think of anything they want but, it must be limited to government action. The kids will naturally have a
few ideas but, they will likely all include the governments action.
If there is a kid who has already learned information from his family perhaps "freedom should be what the government protects not hinders". I will
challenge this child and teach him why his parents are wrong because my objective is to change this kids attitude into the attitude in the objective.
I will challenge his knowledge and since I am older I can at least make him and his parents to look dumb and discourage him from straying from the
opinion I just worked hard to achieve. If I can't change his attitude, he will get a "F" because he failed to demonstrate the attitude in my
Ok Taupin Desciple, you and I just went through the lesson ok. Say that kid was your kid. He comes home with a big fat "F" on his report card and a
little note that just reads..."your child is failing".
What you may have taught him contradicts the school, and therefore is wrong.
In order to get an "A" your child MUST demonstrates the attitude that the system of government is unfair and should be changed to help the people.
A parent may think the grade was based on facts not attitude and punish the child for not trying to learn.
So indeed they must conform to the attitudes taught , they will conform or fail.
Thanks Taupin Desciple for allowing me to use you in the example
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