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posted on Sep, 7 2012 @ 02:17 PM
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Originally posted by OldSchoolMom

Listen sweetheart, I provided links to hours of material, I have studied this issue for years... if you don't have the time to even check any of the resources before you comment, scatter off... you won't "get it" anyway.


Why would such an educated "studied" person resort to attempt at insult?

Hmmm - - - perhaps she is too caught up on her own focal point - - to understand she is trying to "teach" to those not trapped in her captive audience classroom - - that apparently does not allow questioning she does not approve of.




posted on Sep, 7 2012 @ 02:19 PM
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Originally posted by OldSchoolMom
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I see a lot of people throwing around these terms 'communist,' 'socialist,' and 'capitalist'... and seemingly little understanding of what they actually mean... though that is very common, so not surprising...


I agree, I have in this very thread misinterpreted wrongly because of it too. A person working in the education system currently told me that every four years some information even definitions are altered. I believe this was and is intentional as well. Look up "doublespeak". What a perfect way to hinder like-minded minds from communicating by slightly altering meanings for the same word every so often. Just like Charlotte mentioned, you really need to be on your toes to keep up with what is being done and how that is just not possible because we are all busy and have many issues to deal with on a daily basis.

Thanks for contributing and making such a good point.



I'll provide an interesting example of changes in the college level Norton Anthologies which deals with the Classics and upset me to no end:

In vGoethe's Faust one of the most famous lines was that despite all his degrees and learning etc. the only thing he had learned was "the impossibility of knowledge."

That was a significant line until 1992-present when it was rewritten into "Man can know nothing, it breaks my heart." Thus changing the entire thrust of the story that followed.

Then within the first dozen pages I found other significant changes until I threw that piece of trash down and immediately returned it for refund.

If the Classics can be changed and their meaning altered, then exactly where is the education that people think they are getting? It does not exist in present times.



posted on Sep, 7 2012 @ 02:24 PM
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Originally posted by rickymouse
The people who are structuring this thing have patients. I can't say everything about this conditioning is good and I can't say it is bad.

There is NOTHING good about mind control...

ESPECIALLY when you consider the source and the agenda behind it.

The Illuminati is satanic in origins and goes clear back to the Garden.


"The illuminati started long before 1776, It has it's roots in the mystery religions which the knights templar perpetuated. In Nimrod's time, Semiramus brought back the mystery religions which were from before the time of Noah. The Illuminati was just a different name by which these same entities exsisted. They can change their name a thousand times, but the same entities run it."

Illuminati Roots


"The trusted and respected leaders of society secretly belong to a satanic cult and are gradually turning humanity into their mind-controlled slaves. The process is designed to appear "natural." Wars, including the Cold War and War on Terror are based on hoaxes.

Humanity has a terminal disease. [color=#D8F4D0]We are in a state of collective denial.

Every facet of Western society, not just organized Jewry, has been subverted. This includes business, [color=#D8F4D0]education, military, mass media, government and all religions. The elite, Jews and non-Jews alike, are either dupes or agents. That is a condition for advancement.

The Illuminati control current events and determine human history according to their "Plan.". What we call "secular humanism" is nothing but a facade for Luciferianism. "Modernism" is the substitution of their occult vision disguised as "reason" for Moral Order and Objective Truth i.e. God. Our modern world is a fraud dedicated to enthroning Satan as ruler of this planet..

The word "Illuminati" sounds incredible but it's real. It's plans and correspondence
were seized in 1784. Defectors testified at public hearings."

The Root Problem







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posted on Sep, 7 2012 @ 02:28 PM
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Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by OldSchoolMom

Listen sweetheart, I provided links to hours of material, I have studied this issue for years... if you don't have the time to even check any of the resources before you comment, scatter off... you won't "get it" anyway.


Why would such an educated "studied" person resort to attempt at insult?

Hmmm - - - perhaps she is too caught up on her own focal point - - to understand she is trying to "teach" to those not trapped in her captive audience classroom - - that apparently does not allow questioning she does not approve of.




Perhaps OP shortness with ignorance comes from dealing with Lemmings who focus on being "cute and clever" to disguise their lack of education and intelligence. You are probably one of those she describes.

Think about it as you have little to add to adult conversation except the amusement of hearing it.. Things have gotten to the point in our society where intelligent Elders will waste little time and no energy on the ignorant masses..

Societies Elders and Betters have lost patience with the Zombie Classes.
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posted on Sep, 7 2012 @ 02:33 PM
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Originally posted by Brown Bear

Perhaps her shortness with ignorance comes from dealing with Lemmings who focus on being "cute and clever" to disguise their lack of education and intelligence. You are one of the losers she describes.

Think about it as you have little to add to adult conversation except the amusement of hearing it.. Things have gotten to the point in our society where intelligent Elders will waste little time and no energy on the ignorant masses, primarily the youngster class.


Well - - I'm not impressed with dictatorial educators - - complaining about others controlling their children.

Of course - - I have nothing to add to adult conversation and raising children. Good observation.



posted on Sep, 7 2012 @ 02:36 PM
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Originally posted by Mr. D
...check out the movie The Signal!


Powerful quote from that film that so relates to this topic:


"No man, you're much worse off, because you don't even realize what's happening to you."



posted on Sep, 7 2012 @ 03:35 PM
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I can give you a couple of chocolate chip cookies and a cup of coffee and alter your perception. That is a part of mind control. The good in that is that I filled you with antioxidents from the coffee and calmed you with the organic fluoride in the coffee also., gave you chocolate which temporarily lowered your blood pressure by dilating your blood vessels. The two kinds of energy, one created by the sugar and the other created by the butter, will work well with the caffeine to give you some energy. The vitamin K2 in the butter helped calm you also. The caffeic acid in the coffee neutralized some of the aflotoxins in your body and the butter neutralizes the aflotoxins of another sort of fungus. The vanilla I put in the cookies relaxes you and gives you a sense of well being, I use organic vanilla that does not contain propylene glycol that causes insulin resistance. So after we had cookies and coffee I ask you to help me move a chair off the deck and you say sure. I just manipulated you but rewarded you with the cure for a bunch of things, rewarded you with what society says is bad for you. You also got some energy and may go home and do something around the house before eating dinner an hour later. Your wife's happy, I'm happy, You're happy.

Is that something I shouldn't do?



posted on Sep, 8 2012 @ 07:23 AM
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there's nothing to analyze. it was an example, one meant to show that just because someone doesn't know what a word means it is not indicative of a systematic dumbing down of the population, or that their brain "hiccuped". gotta remove that chip on your shoulder dude


The conversation did happen. I know what my disability is and I am understand I can't always articulate well so it doesn't lend to credibility because I cannot remember like I should be able to. I can only say my motivation is not to deceive anyone but to expose deception. I may be a little nutty but I am not known for being a liar.

It doesn't negate in any way the evidence presented here. It can stand alone. So, you can attack me or help me and add any information that can contribute to this important information. Children are being brainwashed. They are being graded on how well they accept the indoctrination not at all what parents associate grades with.



posted on Sep, 8 2012 @ 08:15 AM
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Therein lies the conspiracy... for destroying 4 generations of a nations youth is not done by accident and any student of history can easily predict the results. Dumbed down is obvious and one thing, but the bigger question is what will become of any country with such a serious imbalance? Women have made these children into what they are and take no responsibility. Instead society is faced with mothers (women) and teachers (women) pointing the finger of blame at each other for the mess that they have made.... without seeing the simple common denominator.


The cause has been established in the materials provided. If you want to bash women as if men have no responsibility to the condition we are all in...do it somewhere else...go ahead make a thread.



posted on Sep, 8 2012 @ 08:22 AM
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Hi OP, good thread.

Eastwood recently gave his speech at the RNC. I though that I'd highlight a few of the points that he made. If one looks at a transcript, I'm not taking these out of context.

I know what you are thinking
all left wingers out there, left of Lenin.
conservatives play closer to the vest
but they are there, believe me, they are there
These people are all like-minded

Everybody is trying, Oprah was crying.
now it may be time for somebody else to come along and solve the problem
OK
terrorists in downtown New York City.
overrule 
we are moving onwards
the Russians
a target date for bringing everybody home

it is my turn
 absolutely crazy
Kind of a grin with a body behind it
weigh both sides.
devil’s advocating this
A stellar businessman
maybe still use a plane
big gas 
an ecological man
we own this country.
It is not you owning it, and not politicians owning it. Politicians are employees of ours.
when somebody does not do the job, we got to let them go
masochists
Make my day

Just like the seemingly disjointed Olympic ceremonies, he is giving you the same message in a seemingly disjointed message. It is their time, devil advocating masochists even more left than Lenin who are willing to use contrived events like Oklahoma and New York to MAKE HIS DAY POSSIBLE.

And they are serious and THEY (democrat and republican) ARE LIKE MINDED.

Only One gives Truth, and that is the True God of Heaven and Earth.Your thread clearly and intelligently offers proof that communism didn't die. God and Christ Jesus have been sucked out of the minds and hearts of our children due to planned indoctrination and propaganda. Eastwood point blank tells us who is behind it - Satan. That's right, the other one that they said was "imaginary". This is about the End of the Age, the last Babel of Godless men building their tower on the sins of the descendants of Christian forefathers. The Communist revolution killed 20,000,000. Eastwood said in that speech that it's coming to us. The call to repent to God Almighty for the errors that we have made is growing so loud, the warning that He gave for us to come out of Babylon so that we do not get caught up in the judgements coming upon our lands. Make no mistake, these are His judgements because of our sins. Babylon has been judged and is falling. Come out of her my people. Repent.



posted on Sep, 8 2012 @ 08:43 AM
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I didn't read the whole thread however I just wanted to mention that with this theory (been around for awhile), if you were to include television as a programming source in your theory, you could say that we are being programmed most of the day and much of the night. The human subconscious works with what has been put in our minds (Input) for an output at a later time much like a computer. Subliminal suggestion is akin to hypnosis and "programming". Trigger words but also smells, sounds and or symbols release or act as a executable computer command for the subconscious mind. Great thread!


The subconscious has control even while we are in the conscious state we just don't always recognize that. That is what you are saying right? If so, I agree completely.



posted on Sep, 8 2012 @ 09:52 AM
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The people who are structuring this thing have patients. Teach every generation a little more. It took Moses forty years in the wilderness to straighten his people out. I can't say everything about this conditioning is good and I can't say it is bad. Whoever is doing this isn't smart enough to forsee the consequences of their actions though, they are creating a real mess. The kids are turning out more messed up than ever and they don't want to earn their money, they want to sit around and collect a paycheck and idolize the wrong things in life. We need to see a new approach at this, it's all wrong, worse than what was around before.


The people who are creating this structure use deception and have convinced many that it is beneficial to use deception if it is for a good cause. By blurring the lines between right and wrong among the newer generations, they have no compass to know what is good and what is not. That is why history is so important and that is why history was not taught. It is a record of what was tried and what harm has been done in the past, so we do know what NOT to do again. It also shows what was good and has shown to be beneficial to humanity.

If we all know that telling a lie is wrong under any circumstance, we would be able to identify when something is bad because the actions won't coincide with the words attached to it.

Example: "effective math curriculum", if it were effective it would be a true statement...it certainly gives us the impression it is effective right...it is a claim made in it's title. We know it has not been effective therefore the word is a deception because it does not match up to it's stated intent.

We need a foundation that we can trust first, we do not have that because we have a bunch of liars running things and our system reeks of corruption. The truth is an enemy to a liar, that is why good people are ending up on a list as potential enemies. "Whoa unto those who call evil good and good evil". (this is from the bible somewhere).



posted on Sep, 8 2012 @ 10:42 AM
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Well Annie,

Let's include some more information before I respond to your question, is that ok with you?

You asked me why I would insult a person who decided to ridicule my thread without bothering to review the material I presented. I say it is because I have little patience for that kind of ignorance.

It is one thing to disagree or see things from an angle that I may not see but, I don't see any value in wasting time on a person who will not even put an attempt to review what was presented.

I posted hours of material at posted on 5-9-2012 @ 06:20 AM

This person made his comment at: posted on 5-9-2012 @ 06:36 AM

He immediately accused me of some deception without going through the material I have presented. You may be ok with people disrespecting you but, I am not. Just imagine how different society would be if girls had some standards of self-respect and held them. *shrugs




Hmmm - - - perhaps she is too caught up on her own focal point - - to understand she is trying to "teach" to those not trapped in her captive audience classroom - - that apparently does not allow questioning she does not approve of.


This is not a focal point princess, I presented evidence of what was being done in the schools are intentionally done. I am not trying to teach, my intention was to alert. I am sorry you didn't catch that.

If you have a question, I will be happy to answer it if I can, but don't waste my time if you aren't willing to first go through the material presented so you are able to stay on topic.

I can see you are probably pretty young, I will try to be gentle in my answers.... I understand you are fragile and your feelings are easily hurt.
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posted on Sep, 8 2012 @ 10:56 AM
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If the Classics can be changed and their meaning altered, then exactly where is the education that people think they are getting? It does not exist in present times.


Yep.
Just like they have been manipulating lessons to modify the child's understanding and thoughts, the grades were reflecting how well the child accepted their indoctrination not facts. Therefore the "A" student has been effectively indoctrinated while the "F" student is having difficulty being indoctrinated. Parents wouldn't think for a minute children were being graded based on these things, had they known there would have been a civil war decades ago.

Thanks for adding that this is being done in the colleges as well. I use a multicultural diversity class I took as an example when I describe the deceptive titles given for these courses.



posted on Sep, 8 2012 @ 11:19 AM
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Originally posted by rickymouse
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Knowledge of words does not make you smarter, it makes you more knowledgeable. Maybe you should self analyze. I am not even going to bother looking up that word, I don't need to know it. I probably know ten words that mean the same thing if used in a sentence. Learning more and more words just makes you appear more intelligence, it is not an indicator of true intelligence. Your coworkers probably looked at you strangely for using a word in the wrong situation. Using language appropriate to the situation is the wise thing to do.


Each of those ten words had at one time a slightly different and specific meaning. Language is more precise, and more and deeper meaning can be conveighed, when words are used correctly.

Word abuse makes language, and the clarity of thought it can facilitate, degrade from a photogragh into a stick figure. That is the reason Orwell's 1984 has so much attention payed to language.

A language is a complete model of the universe, to the limit of our understanding. Being able to use all of the meaning in a word enables greater understanding.
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posted on Sep, 8 2012 @ 11:48 AM
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Boy, you couldn't be more right. Truth is truth. Cutting the truth makes it a lie. a lie can never be the truth. 666 is as close to the truth as a lie can be compared to 777 as the truth. Even if deception is for good it is still not the truth because of the way the truth was conceived by a lie. The truth cannot be challenged because it has no flaws unless deception formed the truth.

What society is doing is not right. The people in charge have followed lies for personal gain whether it be for prestige or for money. They cannot fathom telling others that they were erred before because they think it will destroy the prestige that they have built. The reason why this happens is that others higher than them in the organization they belong to"of their kind" will not admit fault and will cause the destruction of anyone who jeopardizes either their prestige or their wealth. The ones who admit things get destroyed from both sides.

This happens in all of societies organizations and is governed by what some refer to as the discipline of the organization. This discipline is what structures religions and churches, governments, organizations, etc.. and even cultures and societies. It is the basis of our laws here in the USA, some of which have been structured for the sole purpose of protecting corruptions. Not all of what we think is bad is, a little good is contained in all bad. The structuring of where this good will end up is what is important. If someone plans events to happen wherby it results in bad for others but the good goes to the person organizing the events, the planner will profit both financially and most often gain prestige in society. Another words if you screw over your fellow man, you could profit. Think of the areas of society that this benefits. If you keep quiet about what you know to be causing disease than your organization and all it's members will have a good and stable income. Yet you did not lie. This goes on all over the place here in America. Omitting to tell someone the truth becomes a sort of deception or it becomes a lie. This form of lie is not considered illegal, don't ask don't tell. Change the subject like politicians do. This needs to be addressed if we are ever to ascend to the next level of humanity.
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posted on Sep, 8 2012 @ 11:50 AM
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Eastwood said in that speech that it's coming to us. The call to repent to God Almighty for the errors that we have made is growing so loud, the warning that He gave for us to come out of Babylon so that we do not get caught up in the judgements coming upon our lands. Make no mistake, these are His judgements because of our sins. Babylon has been judged and is falling. Come out of her my people. Repent.


I agree with what you say here but, there is a big factor that I see as being ignored. You can't elect a liar who has a history of deception, fraud and voting against the people's rights just because we like the lies he says to us before elections. It is time to stop putting faith in known liars. It has never worked out in the past and It just doesn't make sense to me. I would argue that no one should be filling those seats in support of a known liar, lets stop giving support to all forms of deception regardless. Let them talk to themselves, we ought not be giving ear to any of them in my opinion. That is the way I interpret "come out of her"; stop participating in and practicing deception in our lives.



posted on Sep, 8 2012 @ 12:05 PM
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I am used to talking to people in person. I use body language and voice tone to portray the meaning of things. This is very area specific because people in areas tend to form additions to language and motion to verify if the person is what they says they are.

I have a hard time translating this into writing. I cannot address a large spectrum of people properly without using it either. To those of a certain area certain words or phrases have different hidden meanings. To those of different classes words have similar or different meanings based on what is said along with it. It is because of this that people often address some friends differently than other friends. People who can grasp this can get along with most people and not alienate many. I get along pretty well with all kinds of people because I have learned to utilize this concept well. If you are honest with all people this can help you succeed in life. Always remember this though, you can do good all your life and your reputation can be destroyed by one thing done wrong. A person utilizing this for excessive gain can be run out of town, talk spreads like wildfire. This practice should never be abused.
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posted on Sep, 8 2012 @ 12:21 PM
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Originally posted by Lostmymarbles
They do not teach what they use to in schools anymore. Texas approved of the new textbooks which were to be used by all states, those textbooks left out so much history that it's not much of a textbook anymore. Stuff on the civil rights, slavery, Revolutionary War, all gone. And the individuals who approved this new textbook to be used in schools, they home school their kids. Go figure huh.

I recently asked a 15 year old that I play an online video game with, "What galaxy do we reside in?" it took him a long time so I gave him a hint. I told him a candy bar is named after it, and he said "snickers?".

Yeah that happened and it floored me.


Hey, I have some insight into the galaxy question., Back in the day we were taught it was the milky way, however there is a theory being pushed that we in fact, have pieces of another galaxy intermingled within. That is something I heard, but never saw 100% proof of it.
If anyone has a source, I'd love to see it.

Excellent thread



posted on Sep, 8 2012 @ 12:24 PM
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Originally posted by OldSchoolMom

It is one thing to disagree or see things from an angle that I may not see but, I don't see any value in wasting time on a person who will not even put an attempt to review what was presented.


Respect deserves Respect. You are the "educator" presenting a hypothesis to a student IMO. You are the one who needs to take the higher road.


He immediately accused me of some deception without going through the material I have presented.


Did he? Or did he question your source? Another poster stated they were unable to verify as well.



This is not a focal point princess,


Princess? This definitely degrades your position of credibility. A "word"? Is this your personal attempt of "word" mind control? Not working.


I presented evidence of what was being done in the schools are intentionally done. I am not trying to teach, my intention was to alert. I am sorry you didn't catch that.


You presented what supports your position of belief. Your position is not the only position.


If you have a question, I will be happy to answer it if I can, but don't waste my time if you aren't willing to first go through the material presented so you are able to stay on topic.


I have no questions. I have read the material. You have presented a one sided personal focus of your belief. It does not make it right - - it does not make it wrong. It only makes it one sided.


I can see you are probably pretty young,


I'm a 65 year old gramma, who has raised not only my kids - but a few additional - - - plus grandchildren.


I will try to be gentle in my answers.... I understand you are fragile and your feelings are easily hurt.[


Fragile?


I'm not the one who struck back at a poster who questioned source.





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