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Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
Hey, I thought guns don't kill people???
Oh right...they kill multiple people in a short amount of time and with little effort.
Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
Hey, I thought guns don't kill people???
Oh right...they kill multiple people in a short amount of time and with little effort.
Originally posted by Symbiot
People hate each other. People desire to be in control of their own lives, but in societies around the world no one is in control of their own life. When a person goes to work only to be yelled and screamed at by their customers or their supervisors they become angered. Not able to vent this anger towards those that caused it, customer or supervisor, one must bottle it. The anger does not go away, but only builds until one day it explodes in a massive violent outburst. Not everyone deals with anger in the same manner, but there are those that will hand it back to those that gave it to them, society.
In today's world people are generally rewarded for being complete jerks. You can walk into a store and scream at the employees only to be rewarded with a discount, but this angers the employees bearing the brunt of this ridicule. The anger might not be released in that moment, but it will be released. It might result in a battered spouse, child, dog or even a massacre. We throw the killer in jail, but those that turned him into a killer? Rewarded.
Originally posted by pajoly
Originally posted by DAVID64
Chicago and New York have some of the strictest gun control in the nation.
Yep. Taking guns from the average citizen is working just fine.
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If guns were banned in all states, gun deaths would massively drop to rates like Europe.
Originally posted by pajoly
Originally posted by DAVID64
Chicago and New York have some of the strictest gun control in the nation.
Yep. Taking guns from the average citizen is working just fine.
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I am tired of this bogus excuse. The reason they still have high guns deaths is because all around them guns are widely available. All they have to do is cross the city line. You guns nuts are just that, you are nuts. Logic nevers occurs to you. It is the EXACT same as lottery-free states and blue counties. People just cross the boundaries to get what they want. BUT, if there were no lotteries, for example, anywhere in the U.S., people would not play the lottery -- crossing a national boundary is just too much hassle. It would be the same for guns. If guns were banned in all states, gun deaths would massively drop to rates like Europe.
Our problem here is the 2nd Amendment. It made sense back in the earliest of days of our nation, but it has outlived its rational. And don't give me the we-need-them-to-fight-tyranny crap. You think any size group with Glocks, rifles and assault rifles will be able to counter a mechanized force with chopper support and the best intel, etc.? Get over your fantasies. In reality, if we needed to fight tyranny, what would happen is what always happens, massive numbers of service personnel would go AWOL and take their weapons with them to support the citizenry.
Bubba and his boys ain't otherwise going to hold back a well trained army.
DO away with the 2nd amendment and this would be a much better, more free and safer country. Of course you can keep your hunting rifles.
A shooting outside the Empire State Building has left 10 people injured and two people dead, including the gunman, in an apparent work-related dispute.
Several news outlets, including CNN, Reuters, WNBC and The New York Times, report two dead in the melee.
The Associated Press quotes a law enforcement official as saying the shooting stemmed from a workplace dispute.
Update at 10:31 a.m. ET: The New York Times quotes an unidentified city official as saying that eight people were wounded, and that the gunman and one other person were dead.