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Thats weird, you talk about evolution as though is a proven fact or something.
Originally posted by MrXYZ
reply to post by itsthetooth
Thats weird, you talk about evolution as though is a proven fact or something.
That's because it is a FACT. We are actively applying the theory in modern medicine!
And no, your magic isn't a rational substitute
Originally posted by MDDoxs
Originally posted by jiggerj
Originally posted by MDDoxs
Let them do what they want, as long it does not infringe upon you, your family or your friends.
Ignorance is bliss, it keeps them happy
But if brainwashed kids pray in schools it exposes other kids to such brainwashing. As an atheist I wouldn't want my young and impressionable children exposed to such crap until they are mature enough to make up their own minds on this topic.
What do you suggest? Want to segregate the schools again? I think it would be part of your job as a parent to prepare your child for these eventualities. They will always run into people with differing opinions and beliefs, why not preparing them early?
Originally posted by MrXYZ
reply to post by itsthetooth
Thats weird, you talk about evolution as though is a proven fact or something.
That's because it is a FACT. We are actively applying the theory in modern medicine!
And no, your magic isn't a rational substitute
Originally posted by MDDoxs
Originally posted by jiggerj
Originally posted by MDDoxs
In time, i believe it will no longer be practical or possible to remain ignorant, and these fanatical beliefs will eventually fade into obscurity.edit on 12-8-2012 by MDDoxs because: (no reason given)
No, no, no. Try this scenario out: You're a teenager and your father tells you to mow the lawn. In the garage you have a push mover and a rider mower. Which one are you going to use? The rider mower, of course. Why? Because teens will always go for what's easier.
What's easier here: Complex science or learning one simple phrase of 'God did it'?
This is why religion will never die.
Give this generation of kids some more credit please. Not all children are inheritably lazy. That is a wide sweeping assumption, i for one know lots of the new generation of kids and they are much more intelligent and street smart then you seem to believe.
Originally posted by MDDoxs
reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul
I agree that it is a problem and you are right in that it will eventually effect others. However, you would be infringing on their right to practice their belief, regardless of how crazy it may seem.
I would like everyone to deny ignorance and educate themselves, it will better society. However, if you take away their right to practice their faith, you undermine the fundamentals that make democratic nations prosperous.
In time, i believe it will no longer be practical or possible to remain ignorant, and these fanatical beliefs will eventually fade into obscurity.edit on 12-8-2012 by MDDoxs because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by jiggerj
Originally posted by MDDoxs
Originally posted by jiggerj
Originally posted by MDDoxs
In time, i believe it will no longer be practical or possible to remain ignorant, and these fanatical beliefs will eventually fade into obscurity.edit on 12-8-2012 by MDDoxs because: (no reason given)
No, no, no. Try this scenario out: You're a teenager and your father tells you to mow the lawn. In the garage you have a push mover and a rider mower. Which one are you going to use? The rider mower, of course. Why? Because teens will always go for what's easier.
What's easier here: Complex science or learning one simple phrase of 'God did it'?
This is why religion will never die.
Give this generation of kids some more credit please. Not all children are inheritably lazy. That is a wide sweeping assumption, i for one know lots of the new generation of kids and they are much more intelligent and street smart then you seem to believe.
Sadly, I'm not wrong when it comes to kids and religion: www.msnbc.msn.com...edit on 8/15/2012 by jiggerj because: (no reason given)
Though the phone survey depicted broad affinity with religion, the face-to-face interviews found that many teens’ religious knowledge was “meager, nebulous and often fallacious” and engagement with the substance of their traditions remarkably shallow. Most seemed hard put to express coherently their beliefs and what difference they make.
Originally posted by jiggerj
Originally posted by MDDoxs
Originally posted by jiggerj
Originally posted by MDDoxs
Let them do what they want, as long it does not infringe upon you, your family or your friends.
Ignorance is bliss, it keeps them happy
But if brainwashed kids pray in schools it exposes other kids to such brainwashing. As an atheist I wouldn't want my young and impressionable children exposed to such crap until they are mature enough to make up their own minds on this topic.
What do you suggest? Want to segregate the schools again? I think it would be part of your job as a parent to prepare your child for these eventualities. They will always run into people with differing opinions and beliefs, why not preparing them early?
Why not keep religion in the temples and out of the schools? Jeez, school is about learning enough to get a job and to support yourself in THIS world. And if evolution is such a problem, well then get rid of that too. There's plenty of science to be learned without having to study how we came from monkeys.
Originally posted by MDDoxs
Will not disagree with you here. But you do have a chose on were your kids attend. Perhaps the schools need to better cater to the needs of each of their students. I dont have the answers, but you cant demand something be removed from a public institution that you, or i, do not agree with.
Only option i see for those who find religion in schools a major problem, invest in a private school for your kids....
Originally posted by itsthetooth
reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul
At any rate, one thing is for sure, evoltuion has been given the name to something when change is detected. They have never been able to identify whats making the change,
just that it happens so it must be evolution. As you can tell I'm not to fond of the pseudo science that has taken place about it.
Originally posted by MDDoxs
Originally posted by jiggerj
Originally posted by MDDoxs
Originally posted by jiggerj
Originally posted by MDDoxs
In time, i believe it will no longer be practical or possible to remain ignorant, and these fanatical beliefs will eventually fade into obscurity.edit on 12-8-2012 by MDDoxs because: (no reason given)
No, no, no. Try this scenario out: You're a teenager and your father tells you to mow the lawn. In the garage you have a push mover and a rider mower. Which one are you going to use? The rider mower, of course. Why? Because teens will always go for what's easier.
What's easier here: Complex science or learning one simple phrase of 'God did it'?
This is why religion will never die.
Give this generation of kids some more credit please. Not all children are inheritably lazy. That is a wide sweeping assumption, i for one know lots of the new generation of kids and they are much more intelligent and street smart then you seem to believe.
Sadly, I'm not wrong when it comes to kids and religion: www.msnbc.msn.com...edit on 8/15/2012 by jiggerj because: (no reason given)
Your source
Though the phone survey depicted broad affinity with religion, the face-to-face interviews found that many teens’ religious knowledge was “meager, nebulous and often fallacious” and engagement with the substance of their traditions remarkably shallow. Most seemed hard put to express coherently their beliefs and what difference they make.
Your article outlines that US teenagers have difficulty expressing their current religious beliefs in a coherent form, as do most people. I myself, do not identify with any particular religion, even though raised catholic, I can not exactly describe what faith i have or what i believe is out there.
Your original point was kids are to lazy and therefore they will accept religion into their lives. If you want your kids holding no form of belief, then inform them better. The end of the day the onus falls on you. If your kids go to school and develop some kind of faith your not able to "exorcise" then perhaps you have not properly prepared them.
Please dont get me wrong, I would tend to side with you, but your focused on the wrong areas.edit on 15-8-2012 by MDDoxs because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by jeramie
So much hate for the Lord and His Word! Just as prophesied.
Originally posted by jiggerj
Originally posted by MDDoxs
Originally posted by jiggerj
Originally posted by MDDoxs
In time, i believe it will no longer be practical or possible to remain ignorant, and these fanatical beliefs will eventually fade into obscurity.edit on 12-8-2012 by MDDoxs because: (no reason given)
No, no, no. Try this scenario out: You're a teenager and your father tells you to mow the lawn. In the garage you have a push mover and a rider mower. Which one are you going to use? The rider mower, of course. Why? Because teens will always go for what's easier.
What's easier here: Complex science or learning one simple phrase of 'God did it'?
This is why religion will never die.
Give this generation of kids some more credit please. Not all children are inheritably lazy. That is a wide sweeping assumption, i for one know lots of the new generation of kids and they are much more intelligent and street smart then you seem to believe.
Sadly, I'm not wrong when it comes to kids and religion: www.msnbc.msn.com...edit on 8/15/2012 by jiggerj because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by jiggerj
Originally posted by MDDoxs
Originally posted by jiggerj
Originally posted by MDDoxs
Originally posted by jiggerj
Originally posted by MDDoxs
In time, i believe it will no longer be practical or possible to remain ignorant, and these fanatical beliefs will eventually fade into obscurity.edit on 12-8-2012 by MDDoxs because: (no reason given)
No, no, no. Try this scenario out: You're a teenager and your father tells you to mow the lawn. In the garage you have a push mover and a rider mower. Which one are you going to use? The rider mower, of course. Why? Because teens will always go for what's easier.
What's easier here: Complex science or learning one simple phrase of 'God did it'?
This is why religion will never die.
Give this generation of kids some more credit please. Not all children are inheritably lazy. That is a wide sweeping assumption, i for one know lots of the new generation of kids and they are much more intelligent and street smart then you seem to believe.
Sadly, I'm not wrong when it comes to kids and religion: www.msnbc.msn.com...edit on 8/15/2012 by jiggerj because: (no reason given)
Your source
Though the phone survey depicted broad affinity with religion, the face-to-face interviews found that many teens’ religious knowledge was “meager, nebulous and often fallacious” and engagement with the substance of their traditions remarkably shallow. Most seemed hard put to express coherently their beliefs and what difference they make.
Your article outlines that US teenagers have difficulty expressing their current religious beliefs in a coherent form, as do most people. I myself, do not identify with any particular religion, even though raised catholic, I can not exactly describe what faith i have or what i believe is out there.
Your original point was kids are to lazy and therefore they will accept religion into their lives. If you want your kids holding no form of belief, then inform them better. The end of the day the onus falls on you. If your kids go to school and develop some kind of faith your not able to "exorcise" then perhaps you have not properly prepared them.
Please dont get me wrong, I would tend to side with you, but your focused on the wrong areas.edit on 15-8-2012 by MDDoxs because: (no reason given)
My focus was on the fact that it's easier for kids to say, God did it, rather than spend years and years of scientific study. Everything you've pointed out here only substantiates that fact.
Originally posted by MDDoxs
Originally posted by jiggerj
Originally posted by MDDoxs
Originally posted by jiggerj
Originally posted by MDDoxs
Originally posted by jiggerj
Originally posted by MDDoxs
In time, i believe it will no longer be practical or possible to remain ignorant, and these fanatical beliefs will eventually fade into obscurity.edit on 12-8-2012 by MDDoxs because: (no reason given)
No, no, no. Try this scenario out: You're a teenager and your father tells you to mow the lawn. In the garage you have a push mover and a rider mower. Which one are you going to use? The rider mower, of course. Why? Because teens will always go for what's easier.
What's easier here: Complex science or learning one simple phrase of 'God did it'?
This is why religion will never die.
Give this generation of kids some more credit please. Not all children are inheritably lazy. That is a wide sweeping assumption, i for one know lots of the new generation of kids and they are much more intelligent and street smart then you seem to believe.
Sadly, I'm not wrong when it comes to kids and religion: www.msnbc.msn.com...edit on 8/15/2012 by jiggerj because: (no reason given)
Your source
Though the phone survey depicted broad affinity with religion, the face-to-face interviews found that many teens’ religious knowledge was “meager, nebulous and often fallacious” and engagement with the substance of their traditions remarkably shallow. Most seemed hard put to express coherently their beliefs and what difference they make.
Your article outlines that US teenagers have difficulty expressing their current religious beliefs in a coherent form, as do most people. I myself, do not identify with any particular religion, even though raised catholic, I can not exactly describe what faith i have or what i believe is out there.
Your original point was kids are to lazy and therefore they will accept religion into their lives. If you want your kids holding no form of belief, then inform them better. The end of the day the onus falls on you. If your kids go to school and develop some kind of faith your not able to "exorcise" then perhaps you have not properly prepared them.
Please dont get me wrong, I would tend to side with you, but your focused on the wrong areas.edit on 15-8-2012 by MDDoxs because: (no reason given)
My focus was on the fact that it's easier for kids to say, God did it, rather than spend years and years of scientific study. Everything you've pointed out here only substantiates that fact.
The article you provided does not support this claim.
The majority of American teens believe in God and worship in conventional congregations, but their religious knowledge is remarkably shallow
Knowledge-Based Education – We oppose the teaching of Higher Order Thinking Skills (HOTS) (values clarification), critical thinking skills ...
Originally posted by MrXYZ
reply to post by ElohimJD
Macroevolutioin has been proven as well…and is a FACT.