MSM pulls Olympic race card, disgusting!!!

Originally posted by puzzlesphere
I was just watching some replays from the London Olympics... and heavens forbid, an Australian table tennis athlete was referred to as being of Chinese descent!!!

Which is a stupid thing to point out considering everyone but the aboriginals are recent descendants from other countries. How many times did they point out British, Dutch, Irish descent?

reply to post by FoosM


Most definitely her talent was a part of it... we don't know if she trained the hardest, there are many aspects to training, maybe she just meditated more (kind of irrelevant).

Will and nerves were also a part of it, and even a bit of luck. These athletes are all so excellent that the slightest advantage on the day is what may push them to Gold.

After she won, there is a clear statistic that she was the first African American to win Gold in that particular event. Just as if an Australian of Chinese descent had won (something that has never happened, and would be noted if it did). However, because there isn't a deep issue with racism and Chinese in Australia, such as in the US and African Americans, probably the fact she was Australian would be more pertinent.

In cases involving the US, and generally non-African American sports, it is of note for historical reasons that have been covered many times throughout this thread. One of which being that not too long ago, African Americans weren't even allowed to compete due to racist reasons in the US.

That's why it is a point worth noting... and not for any "racist" reasons... just a celebration of her achievement, her country and her heritage.

Originally posted by puzzlesphere

Are you all saying that we shouldn't use any labels to define anyone? Even those that people use to describe themselves?

I think you miss the point. Why should we have labelled the athlete anything but her name and her nationality?
Is that not enough? Why didnt they talk about her religious background, like the fact that she could have been the first mormon to win? Or maybe her sexual preference? Look, its the first lesbian to win. On the world stage, to call a US citizen, by a particular subset is insulting and exclusionary. It harkens back to the racial divide, in this case, that exists in many countries.

Instead of seeing an athlete many of you people are seeing a colored athlete. Thats due to your own bigotry. And you dont know how to deal with it.

reply to post by FoosM


It was worth pointing out, because you and others in this thread have stated multiple times that the media doesn't point out others races, only African Americans... which just isn't true.

Funnily enough, just as I was writing this, there is a boxing match involving an Indigenous Australian (and was stated as such).

Was the commentator being racist there too? Or just describing some of the pertinent attributes of the athlete?

They refer to themselves as African America and with pride, not sure why all the big deal is being made here.
I think there would have been something more said had they not pointed out that Gabby Douglas was "the first African American to take gold in gymnastics".
When another race wins they always say " The first Russian to..." "The first German to..." True she is an America but they have titled themselves this way and we follow suit.

To me I just look at her as an America who I am proud of for winning the gold. that's it.

Originally posted by puzzlesphere
reply to post by FoosM

 

It was worth pointing out, because you and others in this thread have stated multiple times that the media doesn't point out others races, only African Americans... which just isn't true.

Funnily enough, just as I was writing this, there is a boxing match involving an Indigenous Australian (and was stated as such).

Was the commentator being racist there too? Or just describing some of the pertinent attributes of the athlete?

There is no such thing as other races!
Im not going to even go that direction because its nonsense.
Let other people deal with that.

I knew plenty of black people that would kick your ass if you called them african american. Jamaicans generally don't like that

reply to post by AutOmatIc


I think everyone who wants to call themselves or someone else "African" American needs to be able to show their roots. Show me the lineage! Show me your "pedigree".

reply to post by FoosM


I'm not missing the point at all.

Athletes are more than just a name and a nationality... they are a combination of a multitude of attributes, some more pertinent than others. In the case of the US, a very pertinent, and fairly recent historical mindset is the issue of African Americans place in US society.

Maybe a couple of decades from now, a couple of generations on, it won't be such a pertinent comment to make and possibly (hopefully) it won't be a defining factor for athletes (like Brazilians who are a very mixed racial set), but until then, it is still a noteworthy point. Especially when there are still lingering racial tensions in the US, and black communities have the right to highlight their individuality to white communities and the rest of the world... and rightfully so.

Originally posted by Staroth
They refer to themselves as Afro America's and with pride,

How do you know that? Have you done some kind of census?

not sure why all the big deal is being made here.
I think there would have been something more said had they not pointed out that Gabby Douglas was "the first Afro American to take gold in gymnastics". They would have called them all racist! When another race wins they always say " The first Russian to..." "The first German to..." True she is an America but they have titled themselves this way and we follow suit.

Russian and German are not races!
They are nationals!
There are plenty of people who look like Gabby Douglas living there too.

To me I just look at her as an America who I am proud of for winning. that's it.

Good. Thats all the media needed to point out.

Originally posted by Sinny
Aren't they like, making her race a *good* thing?

Just like Obama is the "First black President"?!

Its people like your self who make a deal out of it.

So if a relative of mine won and none like them from the US ever did before they should say...


FIRST EVER IRISH/GERMAN AMERICAN TO WIN THIS MEDAL!

Once people stop noting each others ethnicity we will all be a lot better off. We are all just people, and in this case competing as Americans.

reply to post by FoosM


Many prominent public figures claim to be African American on everything throughout the media, it's a trend that has picked up everywhere, some get offended if you do not refer to them as such. So yes I stand firmly behind what I say. Google search it. Do you really think MSM would say something racist they could be sued for?

en.wikipedia.org...

reply to post by FoosM


OK... what other term than "race" should I use to distinguish one "racial" heritage from another? Say Mexican and Caucasian?

I am more than happy to use any term that you find acceptable in this discussion, if the terminology is your issue here.

Though it is the current popular term for it, even though semantically it may also mean other things.

Originally posted by SeenMyShare
reply to post by AutOmatIc

 

I think everyone who wants to call themselves or someone else "African" American needs to be able to show their roots. Show me the lineage! Show me your "pedigree".

. Thanks to slavery the trail often ends with slavery. African American is the Official title as per the census and other social classifications. Statistically speaking and demographically speaking the majority of people involving in the naming of those who used to be classified as black would have been white. no Biggie on my part it is what it is.

Ridiculous point after ridiculous point being made in this thread.

I was lurking on my mobile phone and I had to log in on my computer to say that.
ATS has it's sunny conspiracy days, but today is rather cloudy with much rain.

Originally posted by Freeborn
reply to post by Battleline

 

What on earth has socialism got to do with any of this?

Is there some sort of hidden, secret socialist agenda at work here?

Too much paranoia.

Nothing to do with paranoia, thats how liberals explain everything when they disagree with or you don't fall in line behind them.
You might want to look up the battle between capitalism and socialism/communism that has been going on for a very long time, then take a good look at this administration and the division they have created with the race card.All I was doing was pointing out that the shills for socialism are everywhere and continue to use the black population as there human wedge to create division and hate that results in chaos which is there real agenda.

If you don't agree thats your choice but don't call it paranoia just because you refuse to notice whats right in your face............................or maybe you know exactly what I am talking about.

reply to post by AutOmatIc
I believe the reason the press make such a big deal when black people do great things is because so many black people blame white people for their lack of success. By showing them it isn't true we all should hope they can rise above slavery mentality and live in this era where success can be attained by hard work and money. That little girls parents had money to spend on her and did. Pointing out all successful black people to black people by black people sends the message that they need to get their head together and stop hating white people. Black people have desperately been trying to change the self hate and the crimes against their own ethnicticity in order to preserve their humanity and recently, in the past 10 years, they have been showing black children that it is possible to be successful so there is no reason for them to just stay stagnated in the ghetto areas of the world. In other words "get off yoyur ass and stop making excuses."

reply to post by AutOmatIc

I think this is ridiculous...this isnt a problem or disgusting to me in anyway whatsoever. and for those who want to call me a racist il have you know about half of my friends today are african american half the people i grew up with were also. My family has always known many african americans and they have always been as family to us. its a moment in history that she is probably proud of herself and everybody else is simply stating the fact. im sure she would say she is the first african american to win the gold too so if it doesnt bother her its not that big of a deal. i dont get why people like you just make every little thing a problem or racial its just stupid. like jessie jackson or al sharpton your making a big deal out of nothing whatsoever. even though we are all human and all bleed red we are also all unique and different in our own ways and race is a part of who we are whether anyone wants to believe it or not. that does not mean we have to treat each other different but nonetheless it is a part of us and when you do something and your the first of your race to do it. i would be damn proud and i would love the media to be going on and on about it. quit getting butt hurt and get the pee pee out yer arse

reply to post by Sinny

Actually a white Scotts man won the 100m in 1980, regular competetors boycotted the Olympics, leaving this man:

That is hilarious the only way a white man won the 100m is that the rest didnt want to run.Did he walk the whole 100m

reply to post by Battleline


Personally I think all ism's are complete and utter bollocks and restrict free and individual thought.

This has absolutely nothing to do with any socialist agenda etc - and sorry, to many non-Americans it does reek of paranoia.