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posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 05:26 AM
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Originally posted by ElOmen
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I understand what your trying to explain.

I Just wanted to know why Ben thinks they make you sell your soul.
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The Creator will never ask you that
and thats the whole difference
the soul is eternal and you have 100% freewill to choose what to do with it




posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 05:29 AM
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I'm not that gullible..I would never sell my soul



posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 05:48 AM
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Originally posted by ElOmen
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I'm not that gullible..I would never sell my soul


Glad to hear that


If you listen to you heart more then your mind
then you are on the correct path

The illuminati biggest secret is the Holy Grail
people thinks it is something with big value and big powers
when you see pictures of Jesus with a heart in the middle
the only real clue left is the human heart

it literaly mean the Holy Grail is withing reach of everyone
but you need to find it in this big labyrinth of lies



posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 05:53 AM
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Did anybody help America fight the japanese? the same one's that made a mockery of china.
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posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 05:53 AM
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Originally posted by Ben81

Originally posted by ElOmen
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If you listen to you heart more then your mind
then you are on the correct path





Those are almost the exact words the master mason told me after I told him I was interested in learning from the freemasons right before I left..he looked surprised when I asked him hos face u should of been there to see it. priceless
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posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 06:22 AM
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Originally posted by ElOmen

Originally posted by Ben81

Originally posted by ElOmen
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If you listen to you heart more then your mind
then you are on the correct path


Those are almost the exact words the master mason told me after I told him I was interested in learning from the freemasons right before I left..he looked surprised when I asked him hos face u should of been there to see it. priceless
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They are using the words of God
the same way the bad guys do in the Book of Eli

just clever deceivers they are nothing else

I saw an article about a priest who commited a murder
a long time ago in a church right before the hotel and the cross
he stabbed a old nun 71 times (probably 72)
and placed a cross downway pointing to the sister left shoulder
and stabed her each side of the cross through the white holy sheet of the hotel
the documentary showed the bloody sheet with the holes
one holes was 2 inch in the middle of the sheet cutted like a house (it form a devil start)
or maybe the cops cutted the sheet for a blood analysis .. they didnt talk about that particular hole
the church buried the case at the moment but 20 later he was finaly arrested
and he was suspected of satanic ritual with an incredible rage (stabing 71 time)
people think its because of a rage .. but the number 72 is a favorite number for satanism

i see many case where they say he stabed the victim 30 or 33 times
people just think people like this are crazy .. and they sent time in mentaly ill hospital
like the priest who was sent in a secret place for particular priest like him

so many satanic murder are disguised like suicide to
people in general dont know about them but they are in many high placed
usualy very rich with a certain degree of power .. like the priest
wonder why so many are caught molesting kids .. many are lucifer followers
that have infiltrated the church

the movies "The Davinci Code" and "Angels and Demons"
will show you are deep those illuminati can be running high ranking offices
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posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 06:41 AM
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Yea I've seen them both. Really interesting movies.
I need some sleep.



posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 06:46 AM
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Originally posted by ElOmen
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Yea I've seen them both. Really interesting movies.
I need some sleep.


Yeah .. i think they have tried to stop the Davinci Movies
many said that movie was a blashemy .. wonder why


have a good night
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posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 06:54 AM
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Nice chatting with you looks like made a new friend.

Peace out spread the truth!



posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 06:56 AM
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Originally posted by ElOmen
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Nice chatting with you looks like made a new friend.

Peace out spread the truth!


my last post on this to you
Are you ready for the truth ? -->

Bob Dylan



Also Kiss



and see this thread for so many people warning us

Michael Jacksons, John Lennon, TuPac,Bob Marley Warning People to Wake Up illuminati NWO

a new friend ?
ok just added you


Spreading the truth is better then spreading lies

its the right thing to do and our duty
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posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 07:37 AM
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Could somebody answer my fundamental OP question please? Will I be qualified to join based on past family connections like my mother said or not?



posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 08:17 AM
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Originally posted by VeritasAequitas
I posted a thread on here not too long ago about pondering on whether or not I should become a Freemason. I have since found out that both my Uncle and my Grandfather, were Freemasons. The latter receiving an official burial by fellow 33rd degree Freemasons. On top of being a Mason, my Grandfather was also a Shriner.

I was told by my mother, that some lodges allow you to qualify if you have had past family members as initiates. Is this true, and how would I go about doing such a thing? My mother was also invited to join the Eastern Star.
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Learn the history first. Watch the first 10 short videos in this 80 part series. The early history of the builders is outlined. In the Bible, God said, "Jacob have I loved and Esau have I hated." Esau makes the nation connected with Nimrod and Babel. The name Nimrod means to rebel against God. He was the first tyrant. When Cain killed Abel, he moved out of the garden and built cities. He was the first builder. When Nimrod rose to power, it was back in the region of the garden. He was going back against God's wishes many years after the flood. When Nimrod's tower of Babel was destroyed, God split the languages and scattered the nations to this very day. Nations scattered and the story of Nimrod was named to other stories as legends of the same. You won't read this about Osiris and Isis in too many places. Most people don't make the connection between Osiris being cut up and the languages being cut. The truth was veiled in the switch of languages and the confusion that followed. If you look closely, Enoch becomes Hermes (Greek) and Thoth (Egyptian). Look for the parallels between other figures in history and you see the same process of renaming by language and region. Similarities and symbolism of archetype reveals the true context.

The Mystery Religion created by Semiramis, Nimrod's prostitute wife, then became the story of Osiris and Isis. The cutting of Osiris was parallel to the languages being cut. The Mystery Religion of Semiramis never ended. Paganism has its roots in this story and survives to this day with the Builders. Jesus referred to the Builder's who reject the Chief Cornerstone. Who are they? They are the NWO trying to put the nations back together under one language, religion and system of government. They are rejecting the Chief Cornerstone of the temple of the heart for the temple of mankind.

Freemasonry is built on the Mystery Religion of the builders. The video below gets straight to the point, but the first 10 in the series gives you the complete outline. The series was created to reveal what Mystery Babylon is from A to Z. If you watch the entire thing, follow it to the episode where the "Experts" in the law are found. Search youtube for the video on The Israel Supreme Court episode.



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posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 08:27 AM
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Originally posted by VeritasAequitas
Could somebody answer my fundamental OP question please? Will I be qualified to join based on past family connections like my mother said or not?


I have answer that question .. probably yes if you have the right contact
and it already run deep in your familly
to be complete part of their cult .. you need to sell your soul to the devil
which is not recommended unless you really really really dont care about your soul
if you want power,fame and knowledge then so be it
but remember the 7 sins and the 10 commandment of the Creator
dont defy and deny those unisersal laws or you wont be able to Ascend
into the 5 dimension ... if you dont then you will be stuck in the 3 and 4 dimension

read the thread in my signature end of the illusion for more info



posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 08:33 AM
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Originally posted by VeritasAequitas
Could somebody answer my fundamental OP question please? Will I be qualified to join based on past family connections like my mother said or not?


No. There is no legacy aspect like a college fraternity. You need to join of your own volition.



posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 08:34 AM
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Freemason's will just get you store discounts and torn-up speeding tickets. while the Theosophical Society will have access to a wider range of occult information.



posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 08:35 AM
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Originally posted by Ben81
to be complete part of their cult .. you need to sell your soul to the devil


The Devil? Do you really believe in childish nonsense like a big red man with a pitch fork and a tail?

What about people like me who do not believe in the Devil? Who or what did I sell my soul to and how can you 'sell' your soul to something that you do not believe in?



posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 08:38 AM
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Originally posted by VeritasAequitas
Could somebody answer my fundamental OP question please? Will I be qualified to join based on past family connections like my mother said or not?



I do know if you are an atheist, they won't invite you.

They choose you on your standing in society. You will need to be well connected as your parents were.



posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 08:50 AM
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Originally posted by AugustusMasonicus

Originally posted by Ben81
to be complete part of their cult .. you need to sell your soul to the devil


The Devil? Do you really believe in childish nonsense like a big red man with a pitch fork and a tail?

What about people like me who do not believe in the Devil? Who or what did I sell my soul to and how can you 'sell' your soul to something that you do not believe in?


The red guy is a joke .. like a mascot in the looney tunes
it is so far from that more like a fallen angel

the templars were white before they became dark
just another metaphore to describe what the ideology have become
so many have turn to occultist because they were desperated at one point
like in a very bad day .. the prayers become blashemy to God .. denying him hating him
when you scream like that to him ..
there is one guy that will always listen and take advantage of the situation
when peoplle ask for answer by mediums or other technic like ouija boards
or crystal with a wires .. the paranormal for some people become obsessed
when you study occultism with the stars and candle around you
it sometimes open a portals and an entity his able to cross and make you think
he is a little shy girl that suddenly have so many answer when you ask questions

well this is the basic stuff but the illuminati are extremely powerfull with the black magic
when you are really into that dark stuff .. then it goes further
animal sacrifices in ritual and then a human being to proove to the dark knight your loyalty

of course the population dont know about that
and it has been keeped a secret for thousand of yrs within the church and many government
if you though area 51 is a big secret .. you really are far from the track



Originally posted by lostjohnny

Originally posted by VeritasAequitas
Could somebody answer my fundamental OP question please? Will I be qualified to join based on past family connections like my mother said or not?



I do know if you are an atheist, they won't invite you.

They choose you on your standing in society. You will need to be well connected as your parents were.


Would parent that have 2 fallen angel making the devil sign near the bed be illuminati ?
white marble angel that make the body of the lamp
recently realised what they were .. i though they were only cute female angels
a perfect bedroom decoration .. are they ?
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posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 09:00 AM
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I am joining of my own volition. I'm asking if I will be allowed to or accepted as I was told.



posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 09:01 AM
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Unfortunately that one is a little further out of my control. Or else I would.





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