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posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 09:03 AM
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Originally posted by VeritasAequitas
reply to post by AugustusMasonicus
 


I am joining of my own volition. I'm asking if I will be allowed to or accepted as I was told.


You avatar make me believe you already involved in occultist

Am i right ?




posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 09:05 AM
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Do not misjudge those symbols. If asked I will provide the meanings for each and every single one in my avatar. However, I assure you that they are not 'satanic'.



posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 09:10 AM
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Originally posted by Ben81
The red guy is a joke .. like a mascot in the looney tunes
it is so far from that more like a fallen angel


I do not believe in fallen angels either. So tell me, what I am supposedly selling my soul to?



posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 09:12 AM
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Originally posted by VeritasAequitas
I am joining of my own volition. I'm asking if I will be allowed to or accepted as I was told.


You be will be accepted based on your motives and the answers you provide when you meet with the investigating committee. The fact that you had relatives that were/are Masons will not be a factor.



posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 09:17 AM
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Originally posted by VeritasAequitas
reply to post by Ben81
 


Do not misjudge those symbols. If asked I will provide the meanings for each and every single one in my avatar. However, I assure you that they are not 'satanic'.


Let me know if im not to far :
the nazi symbol .. hitler didnt create it
it represent a race of higher being
when you turn it with an angle .. you have the nazi sign

the star is the jewish star that represent men and woman
the 2 triangles one pointing down(woman) and the other pointing up(men)

the scepters is from the old egypt and represent divine power or life itself
theorist think the scepter was a advanced alien device from the gods
and it was energized by the pyramid itself

the snake is the milky way

i do not recognise the arab symbol .. Allah ?

truth is greater then religion ... agreed
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posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 09:18 AM
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Originally posted by AugustusMasonicus

Originally posted by Ben81
The red guy is a joke .. like a mascot in the looney tunes
it is so far from that more like a fallen angel


I do not believe in fallen angels either. So tell me, what I am supposedly selling my soul to?


No one for your sake



posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 09:20 AM
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Thank you very much for your answer.




By Him who gave to our soul the tetractys, which hath the fountain and root of ever-springing nature.



posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 09:25 AM
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Ben, if you are going to act as an authority on a subject, please study said subject just a bit so you don't look like this.
There are many websites that explain freemasonry and there really is no excuse for peddling the crap you are spewing.



posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 09:25 AM
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Originally posted by Ben81
No one for your sake


Then why post nonsense that to become a Mason you need to 'sell your soul to the Devil'?



posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 09:25 AM
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Originally posted by VeritasAequitas
reply to post by lostjohnny
 


Unfortunately that one is a little further out of my control. Or else I would.


An interesting fact I read in Robert Lomas' book Turning the Soloman Key:

High ranking Masons are all born under what they call "Bright Morning Stars". These are Venus, Mars and Jupiter.

If they are visible on the dawn of your birth, they consider you more intelligent and respectable.

They love their astrology and alchemy

Tubal Cain. He was the man who forged the iron pillars in the temple of Solomon - also the password of a master mason.



posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 09:27 AM
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Originally posted by lostjohnny
High ranking Masons are all born under what they call "Bright Morning Stars". These are Venus, Mars and Jupiter.


Define 'high ranking Masons'.


Tubal Cain. He was the man who forged the iron pillars in the temple of Solomon...


They were brass, not iron.



edit on 29-7-2012 by AugustusMasonicus because: networkdude has no beer



posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 09:30 AM
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Originally posted by network dude
reply to post by Ben81
 


Ben, if you are going to act as an authority on a subject, please study said subject just a bit so you don't look like this.
There are many websites that explain freemasonry and there really is no excuse for peddling the crap you are spewing.


you didnt get my point
I didnt want to derail the thread
the Op can join any group he want .. he have complete freewill to do so
im only telling him between the lines dont sell your soul to any one and dont do bad stuff

cannot be more simple then that

if im wrong on something then feel free to join in with good arguments
telling me im spewing crap is no argument

ATS is a conspiracy site to debate and learn about stuff people dont know
i know i still have a lot to learn about things that i didnt even though a few yrs back
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posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 09:33 AM
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Originally posted by Ben81

Originally posted by VeritasAequitas
reply to post by Ben81
 


Do not misjudge those symbols. If asked I will provide the meanings for each and every single one in my avatar. However, I assure you that they are not 'satanic'.


Let me know if im not to far :
the nazi symbol .. hitler didnt create it
it represent a race of higher being
when you turn it with an angle .. you have the nazi sign

the star is the jewish star that represent men and woman
the 2 triangles one pointing down(woman) and the other pointing up(men)

the scepters is from the old egypt and represent divine power or life itself
theorist think the scepter was a advanced alien device from the gods
and it was energized by the pyramid itself

the snake is the milky way

i do not recognise the arab symbol .. Allah ?

truth is greater then religion ... agreed
edit on 7/29/2012 by Ben81 because: (no reason given)


The Ankh represents eternal life, while the interlocking triangles(Star) represent subtly Yin and Yang( note the colors, black then white), and the balance therein, however this particular symbol has multiple meanings. The snake represents Ouroboros, or the cyclical nature of life (Death and Rebirth, or Reincarnation). You are correct that Hitler did not create the Swastika. It goes back over 5600 years before he was even born, and has been found in many different places of the earth, and ancient cultures. The Swastika represents literally 'good-being', however it is also the combination of two separate symbols. The Swastika was a prime focal point of the Hindu religion which the Indo-Aryans brought with them when they migrated from Atlantis. This is why Hitler stole, and reversed it. This is why he also had the 'Aryan' obsession. He took the superior race bit too far with it, but the 'Aryans' aren't like him..



This is a good way to define it. I created this myself for an album I put together on Facebook. The final symbol is Aum, the mystical sanskrit sound for the Ajna chakra. The vibration from the Aum is what stimulates your Pineal gland. Notice the sun inside of the crescent moon and the number 3? The number 3 is self-explaining, while the sun inside of the crescent moon represents the balance in masculine and feminine energies. By the way you might like this one Augustus and others.





All of this is part of my Theosophy album I put together
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posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 09:35 AM
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I am a Gemini. I haven't looked at my chart in a while, so I can't tell you off the top of my head what my rising signs and etc are.



posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 09:36 AM
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Interesting ! thank you for posting this

will take a deeper look
you avatar is really intriguing
you surely put a lot of thoughs into it



posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 09:37 AM
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Originally posted by Ben81
im only telling him between the lines dont sell your soul to any one and dont do bad stuff


No, that is not what you said. You made the following statement:


Originally posted by Ben81
I have answer that question .. probably yes if you have the right contact
and it already run deep in your familly
to be complete part of their cult .. you need to sell your soul to the devil



You claimed that to become a Mason you need to sell your soul to the Devil. Just because you like to believe in the Devil and selling your soul to him does not mean we share the same irrational viewpoint.



posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 09:43 AM
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Thank you. I can not take full-credit for the design. It is the emblem for the Theosophical Society; which is why I chose it. It strongly resonates with me, and is quite befitting of the Latin word Veritas, meaning Truth. For there is no religion higher than truth ^^



posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 09:44 AM
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Originally posted by AugustusMasonicus

Originally posted by Ben81
im only telling him between the lines dont sell your soul to any one and dont do bad stuff


No, that is not what you said. You made the following statement:


Originally posted by Ben81
I have answer that question .. probably yes if you have the right contact
and it already run deep in your familly
to be complete part of their cult .. you need to sell your soul to the devil



You claimed that to become a Mason you need to sell your soul to the Devil. Just because you like to believe in the Devil and selling your soul to him does not mean we share the same irrational viewpoint.


you are right
i cannot assume that everyone that join the masson are all selling their soul and evil
i believe some are very good guys and gals with a real mission
maybe my mother will explain to me one day how come she have fallen angels near her bed
until last week .. i never realise what they were making this strange 2 finger sign

i suspect my mom to be one .. she is very mysterious and can be wicked sometimes
but that will never stop me to love her even if she is part of a secret group
she did went to a mysterious meeting on the 27 and told me she came back late after midnight

if she is my mother does that mean im half masson ?
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posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 09:49 AM
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Originally posted by Ben81
if she is my mother does that mean im half masson ?


You are asking me to tell you about your mother? Maybe you should get off the computer and have a real-life conversation with your mother if you are that interested in her personal aspects and their relation to you.



posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 09:52 AM
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Originally posted by VeritasAequitas
reply to post by Ben81
 


Thank you. I can not take full-credit for the design. It is the emblem for the Theosophical Society; which is why I chose it. It strongly resonates with me, and is quite befitting of the Latin word Veritas, meaning Truth. For there is no religion higher than truth ^^


Truth is more important then any religion
i was raised a christian with the bapteme and communion
even went 3 yrs to a nuns school in the forest in the north of quebec
its at that school i saw my first UFO
not so far from where i was sleeping .. and after that sighting i went to bed
it was traveling very low and slowly with a lot of colors near a mountain
still question what it could be

my life has always been a mystery for a long time but its mine and i like it
i always been a guy full of questions from my youngest age
even if i had a few bad moments when i was young .. probably to test me
but its life and other have worst .. i will never complain about it
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