Bloody good idea this, Will all so help with Crime prevention and identification. From a simple scan all medical details are at the fingertips, And will all so go along with biometric scanning technology.

Bring it on, Ill be there for my upgrade

Originally posted by pravdaseeker
Hello ATS Readers, Writers,

What a strange world we are living in eh?...

They, (banking types), would get people to be chipped by CUTTING THEM OFF from finances without the chip.

They would use the data about how much fraud there was, and how much money is lost by credit card hacking and theft. And that they could save gazillions by eliminating the losses via the chip.

As I see where the world has gone since those long ago days of my youth...I see where the last thing he said, which I thought was ludicrous.. is NOW quite possible, due to financial situation of the world.

They wont be chipping me or my wife...no way Jose'..lol.

It is also true that the weird wording, deceptive as it is, can/could also mean a device, class whatever, which is ALSO a description of the chips they use to track you with..

Time will tell, there are so many odd things flying around, laws, stories, crazy nutters, zombies.. Order out of Chaos..

Pravdaseeker

...makes me wonder what the banking industry has done to create the need for the microchip...I mean our parents and grandparents didn't need a microchip but suddenly the banks and hospitals and governments will have us all thinking that we just can't live without it. From what I understand, bankers earn interest off of money that isn't based on anything anymore which means that the monetary system based on the chip will only be based on the willingness of citizens to participate in it. Therefore, the allegiance of citizens to participate in a monetary system that isn't based on anything like gold or silver for example will be required. Perhaps the citizens themselves will be defined as commodities? Romney has said that corporations are people afterall...perhaps the one world government will be a corporation to which citizens will have to prostitute their souls to be a part of...or maybe it will work like a pyramid scheme where the more people you influence to join then the more government benefits you can participate in...We already live in an adulterous generation where everyone is encouraged to sell...I mean market themselves and celebrities will do absolutely anything if the price is right. People even sell their souls on Ebay so what would stop them from literally selling their souls to the NWO?

Well most of us should of saw or did see this coming, its the many main<- steps to the (well you know) no need to say say names here. but yeah its been apart of life before you can even know,, what was life like before we existed.>,>? but yeah it has happened in other times on other planets... look between the lines, but also stay aware but weary. but in my view an many others, this is just another step an i do feel theres no much more time, or atleast time left to be just you,, or what they have made you,, we are the last cycle , an the next generation is done for, in ways like they actually believe all around an maybe controlled, well idk, when will we conform to consist this above power of control. letss just please start something , its harder than usually.

Originally posted by alienskater236
Well most of us should of saw or did see this coming, its the many main<- steps to the (well you know) no need to say say names here. but yeah its been apart of life before you can even know,, what was life like before we existed.>,>? but yeah it has happened in other times on other planets... look between the lines, but also stay aware but weary. but in my view an many others, this is just another step an i do feel theres no much more time, or atleast time left to be just you,, or what they have made you,, we are the last cycle , an the next generation is done for, in ways like they actually believe all around an maybe controlled, well idk, when will we conform to consist this above power of control. letss just please start something , its harder than usually.

you are not alone, alienskater. Many, many people will absolutely resist and refuse to participate. The only reason that some of us have known that this would eventually occur is because it is prophesied in the Bible. God saw fit to let us know how dumb human beings are and what kind of dumb ideas that they come up with. He also knew that none of us are intelligent or capable enough to overcome the sheer stupidity of humanity which is why he sent Christ to us. Some of us know how dumb we are and therefore realize that we need a savior. However, some people, like Oprah for example, think that they are gods and therefore refuse to believe that they need a savior. Their very denial of the fact that they are just dumb human beings will lead them to believe whatever the one world government says. If the government says that there is no God and that you are your own god and, therefore, the only way that we gods can keep ourselves safe is with the microchip then some dummy will believe it. Or maybe the government will say that they are the kingdom of heaven and if you want to be a part of the kingdom of heaven then you have to accept this chip. I mean really, if you don't believe in God then you will pretty much believe whatever anybody says about anything as long as they make you feel good about yourself...or pay you enough money.

But anyways, my point is that the Bible also prophecies that the one world government will fail. The one world government makes a lot of plans but you can thank God that a lot of them have already failed. As far as starting something, that something has already been started on the cross. Christianity is the movement that will eventually overcome the one world government although the one world government will try everything that it can to appear to be Christian but that's another story.

Originally posted by alfa1...The Bill does not refer to chipping people, but in fact to chipping "devices" such as pacemakers or other medical objects.
But you'd know that if you did a search before making a new thread.

you would know that we have already discussed the fact that a microchip is device if you had bothered to read the thread before posting.

the mark of the beat was a tax ID number

every business in the country already has one

panic ?

Originally posted by syrinx high priest
the mark of the beat was a tax ID number

every business in the country already has one

panic ?

possibly but national tax id numbers are not currently accepted on a global scale...I believe that the one world government will want everyone, globally, to all have the same kind of id.

People people, please! They are not talking about putting microchips under your skin for Pete's sake. They are talking about medical devices that have already been implimented in people and testing them to see if they are working properly and doing their jobs. Yes, a microchip is a device, both geese and flies have wings, does that make them related in any logical way as far as classification standards go? No. You're putting two things together that do not logically go together and freaking out about it. Relax. If the puzzle pieces don't fit, don't pound them in anyway just to try to make them. This logic should've been learned as small children with the cube and peg games. The square doesn't fit into the circular hole, people.

Besides, they wouldn't be able to chip everyone anyway unless they personally tracked down every last human in the US and hog tied them.

I was amaze to see how long it took in the replying posts for anyone to point out that the OP's quote says nothing about mandating chipping of Americans by a certain date. Holy ETs, save us from ourselves!

If by a sign of the beast you mean a sign of being held prisoner in a totalitarian system then yes. This whole chip thing is assuming if it falls through, and I don't see the US standing for much more of these restrictions and control that the government is pushing. Get rid of guns, create instant rebellion. Instate obamacare, and there's also a likely chance of a rebellion. Admit that there will be thousands if not tens of thousands of drones spying on people, and you've just added the icing to the cake.

The government is walking on thin ice and they will eventually fall right through.

Hey, if any of you had any common sense you would know that they're talking about pacemakers. That's what implantable medical devices are. Chips are not medical devices, get a grip (after you get a brain).

Originally posted by Aliensun
I was amaze to see how long it took in the replying posts for anyone to point out that the OP's quote says nothing about mandating chipping of Americans by a certain date. Holy ETs, save us from ourselves!

Sorry mods for making a separate reply but I wanted to separate my previous point and this one. Well, you're right. We wouldn't be required by law but perhaps you will be required by your car insurance to do so, or perhaps your home insurance, or even being accepted for a job. You won't necessarily get chipped I don't think, but you'll be required to be part of this system. This Obamacare thing is from my understanding mostly about other things other than providing health care to everyone. I have $40,000 in surgical costs that are going to happen either late next year or the year after. I would prefer paying this out of pocket even though I make almost nothing. I went back to school and so my income is meeeh. But I need the surgery but can still pay it off over time if I play my cards right. If this was medical coverage like what they have in canada with the exception of being forced to pay a visitation fee of say $50 (to prevent people from abusing the system as much) then I'd be okay with it. But it's not, and the government will have absolute control of your life in regards of your health.

Dying? That's okay, the government will just let you die if they want to not cover your medical expenses and take 40% or whatever the death tax is supposed to be under Obama's holy guidance. But, for people who can't afford medical care, such a system already is setup for these people but it's broken and should be slightly improved upon instead of having this whole obamacare mess instated.

During the times of depression, everyone made barely enough to survive and they worked hard for it. Sub-minimum wage imagine. People died because they would siphon gas from one car to another to save money on that, just to go to work. It was illegal and still is but they did what they had to in order to survive. Today, we are in a state of depression, we have no money, we're completely bankrupt but there's still some money left and that's the middle class passing on whatever money they have left to the unemployed class. A lot of them are just sitting this one out and enjoying getting "free" money but won't work for it. So I ask you this... Why should they deserve a right to Obamacare when they won't even pay into it? Not a single cent will be seen from them because they will just keep sucking the system dry.

We can have anything we want. We could have a great system so we don't have to worry about money, or food, water, shelter, car, gas, and so on... But we choose to elect people in office that will continue to corrupt and not improve upon existing systems that could work. There are some people whom are handicapped and cannot work. They are the only ones that are allowed to be off the hook. Everyone else CAN work even if it's mowing people's lawns. I've mowed lawns before and made over $200 in one day, ONE DAY. There's always an opportunity but there's not always a will. With that said, Obamacare is just a money hole and a huge problem for its citizens in the future.

I had my knee replaced 2 months ago from my understanding after reading this, if i don't have a chip and I ever need a revision I'm out of luck. And don't forget about the NDAA and how it will play a supporting role to this.