U.N. Commission Calls for Legalizing Prostitution Worldwide

Originally posted by Max_TO
On a side note , governments have a hard time organizing garbage pick up and here we want them to regulate prostitution

edit on 24-7-2012 by Max_TO because: (no reason given)

thats funny but garbage pickup is a privatized industry in the US. You must be referring to some other country. To your point, the garbage pickup isn't profitable but prostitution just might be so never count your government out

Never understood why prostitution was illegal on the first place?

reply to post by galadofwarthethirdNice comments. Star for you. Humans have evolved in many aspects. You see its the dumbing down of the masses is what will lead (if ever) to the legalization of prostitution.

Originally posted by tonyfEn
However, what I could do was by small bottles of champagne once an hour or so and she would be aloud to stay with me. Now I did end up sleeping with her, all three nights. Make of that what you will, but I can assure you it was her decision every time to go. For those three nights I would go in, I would buy some cheap champagne, and we would talk and dance, but what she told me was disturbing.

Hate to be the one to burst your perception bubble but you very much paid for sex… It's the classic "Juicy Girl" scheme used around military bases the world over on payday.

It is a classic soft sell technique used on customers who show a reluctance to enter into the straight sex for money arrangement. The girls are pro’s in more areas than in the bedroom. They are classic manipulators. The technique is used in bars all over the globe in countries where straight up prostitution is illegal. I understand that in Germany that is not the case but sometimes a customer might have some moral issues with the sex for money arrangement so he is manipulated into a situation that he feels more comfortable with – the one night stand or classic bar pick-up.

Works just like any bar room hook-up. You buy the girl overpriced drinks all night and the entire time her “manager” is keeping track of the money you spend. Once you meet their unwritten threshold for certain acts your girl will become more amorous.

Usually, at this point the customer wants to buy more drinks which “unlocks” more and varied acts until you meet the final threshold for sex. At that point she gets a cue from "management " and you all head upstairs for the deed.

They actually make more money off this technique than the straight up sex for money agreement as they have an astronomical mark-up on the drinks.

So not only did you pay for sex you were manipulated into paying more than everyone else did so that your conscience could process the act as a regular bar pick-up.

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by Ladysophiaofsandoz

 

Society is being degraded and demoralized more and more and with the help of Hollywood and greedy, selfish politicians.

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edit on 25-7-2012 by ThirdEyeofHorus because: (no reason given)

Precisely. Society in general is being dumbed down that many actions that seemed 'taboo' is normal to many groups of individuals. Star for you.

Originally posted by honestyblaze
reply to post by hp1229

 

To legalize it is to say 'We own your body'..

You know I never looked at it that way or thought about it Excellent point. Star for you.

Originally posted by Kastogereas it is now it's like pumping a chemical toilet. never know what you'll get off the street.

that was hilarious in a sick way though. Thanks for the laugh.

Originally posted by Biliverdin
Originally posted by SibylofErythrae
Unfortuately, as a by product we have the intelligence to exploit or to excuse exploitation, using it to justify it as being natural rather than seeing it as a by product of civilisation and trade based economies. It is very devolving. More and more, it appears to me, that men are becoming enslaved to this false sense of a sex-drive or compulsion. And women it seems, in their eagerness to feel superiority, are happily re-enforcing this belief system.
Great posts in this thread BTW

edit on 25-7-2012 by Biliverdin because: (no reason given)

Great point. You certainly explained a certain idea that I wasn't able to explain in some of the posts on this thread. Star for you.

Originally posted by TheJourney
Great...legalization of drugs and prostitution are VERY important issues...

Government should not be legislating morality, and telling people what they can and can't do with their own bodies...

Those who speak of the 'detrimental' effects of legalizing drugs and prostitution have clearly never really put any time into actually thinking about the issue...when these things are made illegal, all the very bad things associated with them, beyond one's personal moral opinion about its merit, are massively increased. It goes underground, violence is increased and cannot be curbed because of the inherently illegal nature of the activity, diseases begin to spread, children get involved, etc...the actually BAD things, objectively, are increased, in the name of stopping some subjectively 'immoral' activity...

Oh no.

You are correct the violence is focused.

Your solution is to make the violence less focused but shared across all of society. Somehow, I'm not feeling that this solution is particularly better.

Harm reduction is confused with empowerment. This is akin to suggesting that in a situation where you aren't being beaten regularly, you are free.

Originally posted by ototheb85
To them saying they agree with this if you have a daughter would you like her to sell her body for sex its disgusting!
Instead of the government spending money to help them out of prostitution they want to allow it and make money out of it by probably taxing them.WTF!!!!!!

You got it. Many of them here think that it would be great and I suppose they wouldn't mind if tomorrow or in the future if their offsprings would join the proud and profiting industry of prostitution
I asked the same question to someone but the answer was vague. You see it is convenient for many to type that they do not have any issues. I bet you they would flip out in reality if they saw their offsprings offering the services to others.

Originally posted by FailedProphet
Seems to me we already have legalized prostitution. It's called "marriage."

My last one was a heck of a lot more expensive than a few trips to the cathouse would have been, I can tell you. And after a few years there was a lot less after-dark fun, too.

If your marriage view is that it is your ticket to free pussy, they problem in your marriage might be you.

reply to post by Biliverdin

That tired excuse

You do realise that there is absolutely no evidence to support such an assertion.

No evidence?

It is common theory that the "survival of species" instinct is superior to all others including "survival of self." In fact, most species will willingly march to their death for the opportunity to procreate. Usually it is the males making that sacrifice, sometimes even becoming a meal for the female!!

I think there is plenty of evidence to support the idea that males are hard-wired for procreation at all costs.

On another topic, I was talking with a co-worker (female) about this subject over lunch, and I'm a full-grown, happy, well-adjusted, heterosexual male, and if a fat, disgusting man wanted to pay me $1000 per hour to grind around naked on top of me, I'd have to at least consider it!! She said it was a no-brainer, hell yeah she'd take the money! Now, some of these streetwalkers are getting more like $50 per hour, but they are supporting a drug habit and they don't have a lot to offer in the first place. $1000 per hour is not unrealistic for a pretty person with some self-respect, good hygiene, and a discerning clientele. I could work an hour or two per day under those conditions for that pay, no problem!

Lots of good arguments being made in this thread. Personally, I think prostitution is a respectable profession that has been given a bad name. Society says it is disgraceful to sell your own body, but if anything, prostitutes are renting their bodies for a short period. They lose nothing, and can continually give it out. In an ideal world, each woman would work for herself and take all the earnings. No pimps or middle-man trying to get a cut for doing nothing at all. If legalization helps to eliminate those guys, then it gets a big thumbs-up from me.

Lots of men don't plan on settling down and living the married life with kids. So the argument that it will destroy families doesn't apply to everyone. And now, a hooker joke:

One day at a Catholic school, Sister Ann asked the class what they would like to be when they grow up. Little Wendy raises her hand and says "when I grow up, I want to be a prostitute."

Sister Ann's jaw drops and she demands "What did you say!?" Wendy repeats, "A prostitute!"

Sister Ann breathes a sigh of relief and says: "OH dear Lord, thank you...I thought you said a Protestant!"

Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by Dhimmie

 

Thailand? Thailand? The home of selling your little sister for peanuts? Prostitution is not the issue in Thailand, it was a shyte hole anyway, and we're not talking about regular prostitution, we're talking about extreme child rape. People travel from all over the world to have sex with 11 and 12 year olds, that is not just prostitution, that is something totally different.

Well but as per the logic from many posts on this thread, why dont we help the poor nation of Thailand and help them legalize what they have to offer? Why just stop at legal age prostitution? Why is it wrong?...I am being sarcastic here now.

Originally posted by SibylofErythrae

Originally posted by FailedProphet
Seems to me we already have legalized prostitution. It's called "marriage."

My last one was a heck of a lot more expensive than a few trips to the cathouse would have been, I can tell you. And after a few years there was a lot less after-dark fun, too.

If your marriage view is that it is your ticket to free pussy, they problem in your marriage might be you.

Exactly, but even the people in this thread that oppose prostitution are saying similar things. That if a man has access to sex from a wife, why would he want a prostitute. Well, are we supposed to pick wives just based on sex? A wife is a life-partner with a spiritual connection, and the responsibility to handle be a partner in running a family and raising children. A wife isn't just a concubine.

I'm amazed that people that are opposed to prostitution can also view a wife as purely a concubine? How the hell does that logic compute in their brain? I've had LOTS of great sex with people I'd never consider for a wife, and I've had some very good potential wives that weren't the best sex I ever had. Ideally we'd like to have all of it in one package (like I have now!), but we don't choose wives based on sex, and we don't choose sex based on wife potential. Sex is for fun, marriage is for friendshipc, spirituality, and familial matters.

reply to post by hp1229


I agree a sexual relationship between two loving people is better than prostitution but we both know that isn't always possible in every case. There is a difference between sex and love it's human contact I am talking about. We think it's ok to pay someone to care for our old and our very young to see to their biological needs like changing and feeding. The old, handicapped, and those who are deemed "unattractive" and don't get the opportunity to be with someone physically. The desire is still there though. There is a value and bennifit to the contact its self. For those who are lonely or need the company. Sex is not the only reason men pay women for their time. I would rather see the money taken out of the equation but we both know that isn't going to happen.

There was a study I read a while ago where they took baby monkeys away from their mother and didn't allow them to ever be touched they found they became sick and latter died. They failed to thrive.

Paid services are not the same as the real thing but what is the difference between someone being paid to feed and change our elderly and someone being paid to help someone with their other biological needs? In a perfect world it would be someone who was doing it out of compassion and love but this is far from a perfect world sometimes.

Originally posted by TruthxIsxInxThexMist
reply to post by hp1229

 

Lets be honest here.... legalising Prostitution would benefit everyone really... cleaner environments, prostitutes wouldnt be walking the streets and risking death, you'd get proper security....

And if you look at the Internet Dating thing... thats sort of similar to Prostitution.... you pay for the service to browse and chat... in fact online services are worse because most of the time the paying customer is being ripped off due to fake profiles!

Internet dating is like prostitution?

REALLY? Seriously?

You think that people looking for love and relationships is EXACTLY the same thing as prostitution. Man that's sad.

Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by Biliverdin

 

People have entire collections of porn they don't look at or watch, because after 2 or 3 viewings, it loses its stimulation. Men cheat on supermodels and porn stars! We want what we haven't already had, or what we can't get, or what prances by us day after day and we haven't had yet.

What makes you think that the 'stimulation' will not wear out once it is easily available legally? Part of the 'stimulation' is about obtaining the unobtainable isn't it? Even though the prostitute can be different, it is still a known and given that you will get it as its a paid service as supposed to trying your best to see if you'll get laid with a pretty one that you might bump in at a singles bar?

Originally posted by anonymous5
is UN GOOD or EVIL organization? Are they part of NWO agenda? Are they anonymous?

The UN will become whatever it is you let them become. Currently that is a consortiuum of democracy amoungst dictators and elitists.

Originally posted by hp1229

Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by Dhimmie

 

Thailand? Thailand? The home of selling your little sister for peanuts? Prostitution is not the issue in Thailand, it was a shyte hole anyway, and we're not talking about regular prostitution, we're talking about extreme child rape. People travel from all over the world to have sex with 11 and 12 year olds, that is not just prostitution, that is something totally different.

Well but as per the logic from many posts on this thread, why dont we help the poor nation of Thailand and help them legalize what they have to offer?

Why just stop at legal age prostitution? Why is it wrong?...I am being sarcastic here now.

I don't understand the sarcasm? They are already selling what they have, it is already disgusting, it is already illegal to participate in "sex tourism," what else can we do from 10,000 miles a way? Nobody is advocating the right to travel around the world and have sex with children that are desperate and have no other option for feeding themselves.

When we talk about legalizing prostitution, we are talking about adults, voluntarily making a conscious choice to pursue that as a part-time job, or a full-time career. We're talking about regulating it like a healthcare profession, having stipulations for safety, environmental and disease control, taxing the income, and taking the criminal and human-trafficking element out of it.

You'd be surprised how often my investigators come up against human trafficking elements in nail salons and massage parlors. At lunch today I tried to talk to the chinese waitress at the chinese buffet, and I barely got her name out of her as she nervously looked over her shoulders to see if her boss was walking. She is an indentured servant, in the gray area of the law, living with her host, working for her host, and instructed to NOT make friends or have outside contact, and it has nothing to do with prostitution. Legalizing prostitution would help us get more control over the profession and eliminate some of the seedier side of it.