U.N. Commission Calls for Legalizing Prostitution Worldwide

Originally posted by hp1229

Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by Biliverdin

 

People have entire collections of porn they don't look at or watch, because after 2 or 3 viewings, it loses its stimulation. Men cheat on supermodels and porn stars! We want what we haven't already had, or what we can't get, or what prances by us day after day and we haven't had yet.

What makes you think that the 'stimulation' will not wear out once it is easily available legally?

Part of the 'stimulation' is about obtaining the unobtainable isn't it? Even though the prostitute can be different, it is still a known and given that you will get it as its a paid service as supposed to trying your best to see if you'll get laid with a pretty one that you might bump in at a singles bar?

Oh, I agree, it won't always eliminate rape. There are men that rape for a multitude of reasons.

BUT, it might prevent another Aurora, Colorado. If that guy snapped, because his AFF ad failed, and his cohorts at the university were rebuking him, and he spent THOUSANDS of dollars on guns and ammos, he could have spent half that amount for a weekly visit to a brothel and concentrated the rest of his attention on his studies, and perhaps nobody would be dead, and he would be a successful researcher?

Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by Biliverdin

 

I would also agree that some date rapes are the result of confused notions of consent and yes, they usually are about gratification. But a victim is quite capable of knowing whether his or her rapist ejaculated or not, so whether they were caught or not, is irrelevent.

And I'm not talking about date rape (which I have a hard time believing is rape),

I'm not surprised by your confusion on this subject. For you to look at this particular topic and its spousal form honestly would require a serious and likely unpleasant look at your own views and your dishonourable conduct in your own relationship.

Date rape, and spousal rape is rape. I could elucidate the subject for you in glorious detail if you like. You probably won't enjoy the experience.

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Yes, you guys are loving this idea that prostitution will stop guys from shooting up theatres. It isn't as if he couldn't afford a prostitute. He bought plenty of weapons. I'm sure he could have gotten a blow-job for the cost of one.

This is pure lies.

Originally posted by SunnyDee
"Leave the Gun, Take the Canoli!"Do you think the UN might like the Godfather?

edit on 25-7-2012 by SunnyDee because: (no reason given)

I guess they would and they do thus their attempt to become one....'GodFather' that is

Originally posted by getreadyalready

Originally posted by SibylofErythrae

Originally posted by FailedProphet
Seems to me we already have legalized prostitution. It's called "marriage."

My last one was a heck of a lot more expensive than a few trips to the cathouse would have been, I can tell you. And after a few years there was a lot less after-dark fun, too.

If your marriage view is that it is your ticket to free pussy, they problem in your marriage might be you.

Exactly, but even the people in this thread that oppose prostitution are saying similar things.

That if a man has access to sex from a wife, why would he want a prostitute. Well, are we supposed to pick wives just based on sex? A wife is a life-partner with a spiritual connection, and the responsibility to handle be a partner in running a family and raising children. A wife isn't just a concubine.

I'm amazed that people that are opposed to prostitution can also view a wife as purely a concubine? How the hell does that logic compute in their brain? I've had LOTS of great sex with people I'd never consider for a wife, and I've had some very good potential wives that weren't the best sex I ever had. Ideally we'd like to have all of it in one package (like I have now!), but we don't choose wives based on sex, and we don't choose sex based on wife potential. Sex is for fun, marriage is for friendshipc, spirituality, and familial matters.

Which also goes to prove that people who are using prostitution are NOT doing so because they aren't getting sex. They can be having sex regularly, and still choose to use prostitutes.

The whole subject is full of lies. People are not using prostitutes because they are some hard up loser. They are doing it because they like the other aspects of the exchange.

Originally posted by SibylofErythrae

Originally posted by FailedProphet
Seems to me we already have legalized prostitution. It's called "marriage."
My last one was a heck of a lot more expensive than a few trips to the cathouse would have been, I can tell you. And after a few years there was a lot less after-dark fun, too.

If your marriage view is that it is your ticket to free pussy, they problem in your marriage might be you.

that was a funny response. Nothing in life is for free but at the same time not everything is paid for with money.

Originally posted by hp1229

Originally posted by SibylofErythrae

Originally posted by FailedProphet
Seems to me we already have legalized prostitution. It's called "marriage."
My last one was a heck of a lot more expensive than a few trips to the cathouse would have been, I can tell you. And after a few years there was a lot less after-dark fun, too.

If your marriage view is that it is your ticket to free pussy, they problem in your marriage might be you.

that was a funny response. Nothing in life is for free but at the same time not everything is paid for with money.

Thanks. Humour is my preferred bat.

Only if every interaction you have is based on a resource based conception of the world.

If every human interaction is viewed only through a framework of what you are getting out of it and what is being taken from you, then yes nothing is free. However, this frame of reference is a choice...one that is being promoted incessantly currently, but a choice nonetheless.

Love is not a diminishing resource. There is no "peak love."

Originally posted by getreadyalreadyOriginally posted by hp1229Originally posted by getreadyalreadyreply to post by Dhimmie

 

I don't understand the sarcasm? They are already selling what they have, it is already disgusting, it is already illegal to participate in "sex tourism," what else can we do from 10,000 miles a way? Nobody is advocating the right to travel around the world and have sex with children that are desperate and have no other option for feeding themselves.

Just because they are already selling what they have doesn't make it legal. It is illegal even in thailand. So some of the logic used on this thread suggested that making it legal would solve many problems. Thus my sarcasm is intended at the other topic of human trafficking (minors) to make a point that there are many things that are/were illegal for a reason.
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Many people also forget that it is very easy to administer such programs in european countries compared to US because they're so freakin small geographically and demographically. Administering the US is a whole different thing not to mention different state laws vs federal laws.

Originally posted by SibylofErythrae
Originally posted by hp1229
Originally posted by SibylofErythrae
Originally posted by FailedProphet
If every human interaction is viewed only through a framework of what you are getting out of it and what is being taken from you, then yes nothing is free. However, this frame of reference is a choice...one that is being promoted incessantly currently, but a choice nonetheless.

Unfortunately its the commercial echo and stereotyping of the masses by many mediums (MSM, Hollywood, Commercials/Ad flyers etc etc) often sneak them in on a regular basis with a regulated dose that many are unaware of this particular change to the thinking and behavioral pattern.

Love is not a diminishing resource. There is no "peak love."

Precisely what many people forget and buy into the scientifically explained hypes. Unfortunately many do not understand since they havn't tried nor have they experienced the true power of it. Star for this quote (if indeed you intended to use it as one ).

This is great news! It can be properly regulated and can hopefully help people who are 'bought' and sold in to prostitution.

Kinda reminds me of the song Dolomite by Snoop Dogg

Snoop Dogg Dolomite lyrics
Yes, this is me, the bad, bad dolomite And I'm ready to put me in the White House Make me the President I'm gunna move on my first act I'm a, get me 2000 ragedy ass painters To paint the muthaf*ckin? White House black Dolomite for your president I'm a legalize every muthafcukin? thing Somebody ask me how do I stand on Marijuana Very high baby, very high How do I stand on prostitution I don't stand on it, I lay on it I'm a legalize sellin p*ssy Sell it, sell it, sell your p*ssy, girls P*ssy will sell, if p*ssy don?t sell Grits ain't gross and eggs ain't poultry And Mona Lisa is a muthaf*ckin' man

Originally posted by SibylofErythrae

Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by Biliverdin

 

I would also agree that some date rapes are the result of confused notions of consent and yes, they usually are about gratification. But a victim is quite capable of knowing whether his or her rapist ejaculated or not, so whether they were caught or not, is irrelevent.

And I'm not talking about date rape (which I have a hard time believing is rape),

I'm not surprised by your confusion on this subject. For you to look at this particular topic and its spousal form honestly would require a serious and likely unpleasant look at your own views and your dishonourable conduct in your own relationship.

Date rape, and spousal rape is rape. I could elucidate the subject for you in glorious detail if you like. You probably won't enjoy the experience.

edit on 25-7-2012 by SibylofErythrae because: added: no. backwards. you pervy mofos. it was pre-existing, not experience created. violent tendencies are the consequence. lazy pervy mofos who ignore thousands of years of methodology. choke on your venom.

You've totally lost me on your last 3 responses. I was agreeing with you in my original response to you, but you seemed to have totally misunderstood or misrepresented my views.

I totally believe in spousal rape, and date rape, when it is actually, forcible rape. What I don't believe in is the idea of confused notions of consent. Either they resisted or they did not. If a person has sex, and later regrets it, that is not date rape. If a person is forcibly held down and raped, it is rape. It doesn't matter if it is a spouse, date, or stranger. Force is force.

Your edit makes me think perhaps you are drunk or impaired, because you make no sense in your several responses, but especially in that edit.

For the record, my spouse is extremely happy. Except when I spend too much time on ATS.

Originally posted by hp1229

Originally posted by boncho
reply to post by hp1229
The best thing for the people that are in this industry if it's legalized, is that they can contact authorities if they are abused or mistreated, and suddenly they are treated like actual human beings...

This would be a compromise with the real issue instead of addressing one IMO. Its like saying that pedophiles are a problem but they wouldn't be a problem if it was legalized.

If you think having sex with adults for money is similar to having forced sex with kids than you have some major issues.

Originally posted by boncho

Originally posted by hp1229

Originally posted by boncho
reply to post by hp1229
The best thing for the people that are in this industry if it's legalized, is that they can contact authorities if they are abused or mistreated, and suddenly they are treated like actual human beings...

This would be a compromise with the real issue instead of addressing one IMO. Its like saying that pedophiles are a problem but they wouldn't be a problem if it was legalized.

If you think having sex with adults for money is similar to having forced sex with kids than you have some major issues.

Common now. I'm wasn't born yesterday. I know what you are talking about. I have 2 toddlers of my own and I have a Nuclear Family 1 boy and 1 girl. I'm just concerned about their future as any other parent would be. Thus...NO I dont believe in any of it nor do I advocate any of it nor am I in favor of prostitution(legal or illegal) or sex with minors. I am only responding back using some of the logic that was used to convey and convince why the industry should be legalized by others. I'm not sure if you read the entire thread from the 1st page with responses just for the kicks

reply to post by Paradox1121
Is he by any chance on the advisory team for the current POTUS? sorta a low-key profile maintaining advisor ?

I'm hesitate to jump in this thread, and basically this whole discussion is very disturbing to me. I see this as yet another way for the UN aka TPTB to destroy people's hearts and souls. I don't believe any woman sells her body because she "wants" to, and come on guys, be honest, you don't want your daughters and significant other's doing this. To all of you "wonderful" guys helping these poor girls through school, I have an idea, maybe help them by giving them a real part time job, and not exploting them, funny your willing to give them $200 to get laid, and maybe $20 if they babysitt your children...

How many men out there that claim no one gets hurt in porn and prostitution, are the first one's to use the word "whore" to describe a woman they dislike?

I don't think it should be illegal, as I don't think drugs, and free speech should be illegal....but let's call a spade a spade....this is a sleezy business, people DO get hurt, the majority of young women and men that get involved with it come from broken homes, and have drug problems....if you want to pay for sex, that's your business I guess....but don't try and pretend there's anything "good" about it........sigh.......

reply to post by MountainLaurel
Star for you. Do not hesitate to jump in It is indeed a very touchy subject. Your comments are just as important as any others on this thread. We're not here to dispute nor argue but simply discuss in the hopes to shed some positivity on anything and everything that matters.

Originally posted by hp1229

Originally posted by boncho

Originally posted by hp1229

Originally posted by boncho
reply to post by hp1229
The best thing for the people that are in this industry if it's legalized, is that they can contact authorities if they are abused or mistreated, and suddenly they are treated like actual human beings...

This would be a compromise with the real issue instead of addressing one IMO. Its like saying that pedophiles are a problem but they wouldn't be a problem if it was legalized.

If you think having sex with adults for money is similar to having forced sex with kids than you have some major issues.

I am only responding back using some of the logic that was used to convey and convince why the industry should be legalized by others. I'm not sure if you read the entire thread from the 1st page with responses just for the kicks

I read through all your replies in the thread, things like:

Similarly legalizing will eventually destroy and devalue the morals which upto a great extent is whats holding many societies together with or without the Governments

Maybe you didn't go to college or university, maybe you did but didn't live on campus. Maybe you didn't go to parties after class or on weekends. But I assure you, young people do a fine job at "devaluing morals" by themselves.

But that's just it, that's only if you believe it's immoral.

If a girl is giving out free gang bangs I don't see how it's much different than taking money for the same act. A lot of time girls want something first before they consider hooking up, sleeping with a guy (Whatever you want to call it). Whether it be booze, _______, a paid dinner, etc.

Same thing...

The same air of mystery is what life and things interesting for many. Romance and Love are few of them including foreplay and/or wooing a mate for relationships. Its the difference between commercialized slaughter house vs raising chickens on your farm Big difference in taste and satisfaction.

Some people believe this and then you have others that don't and don't admit it. Like one girl I know and her boyfriend is just adoring her, believing she is an angel sent from heaven, etc, etc.

I know a half dozen people that have bedded her since they were together. It's not really my business. But this is what happens when you try to ignore people's personalities and hide sexual nature. Instead of just accepting and dealing with it.

Also what if the business opens up at a mall ?

People discussing this topic with you may as well speak to a church group about it. How sheltered are you to make comments like "Brothels at the mall."

Is there a nightclub across from your children's school? No? Yes, because there is something called zoning.

Think red light districts.

Besides, there are probably hundreds of escorts (prostitutes) already working privately in your town/city out of their houses or condos. You just don't know about it...

reply to post by MountainLaurel

have an idea, maybe help them by giving them a real part time job, and not exploting them, funny your willing to give them $200 to get laid, and maybe $20 if they babysitt your children...

Sitting in a recliner watching MTV, while my kids are asleep in the other room, is worth $20. The things I might hire a prostitute to do would require strength training, flexibility, cardiovascular health, and mental fortitude, LOL! It's worth $200 and more.

Seriously though, I would never call a woman a whore, or even a slut. I've sometimes known women who call themselves sluts, to which I respond.... "that's why I love you though."

reply to post by getreadyalready

$1000 per hour is not unrealistic for a pretty person with some self-respect, good hygiene, and a discerning clientele. I could work an hour or two per day under those conditions for that pay, no problem!

as usual I am stunned,

To me this would be like selling my soul, for a buck.