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reply to post by spoor
TextIt has? Which court was that in (remember, birthers have lost every silly court case that they started) or do you mean "you read it in a blog, so it must be true"?
Originally posted by Seede
Everyone who knows that Obama has spent almost a million dollars to hide his past is not a birther. Get facts straight.
reply to post by EvilSadamClone
TextObama has spent almost three million dollars on legal fees in his defense against lawsuits being brought against him.
Originally posted by Seede
Legal fees to defend a BIRTH LIE 43 times in assorted courts could have been avoided by simply producing the correct birth certificate.
See how simple it could be if people would not LIE.
By the way I would be willing to bet that you do not know that Obama's Birth certificate has been found.and not in the United States.
Originally posted by Seede
reply to post by EvilSadamClone
TextObama has spent almost three million dollars on legal fees in his defense against lawsuits being brought against him.
Mr. Evil
Let me finish this above sentence beings that you must have forgotten to finish the entire truth. " Obama has spent almost three million (tax payer) dollars on (free to him) legal fees in his defense against lawsuits being brought against him (that are alleged to intail hiding all of his past..) Even at that your accusation is incorrect. I have never said that Obama spent almost three million dollars on legal fees. PROVE IT. You are as incompetent as Spoor in understanding what was written. Get you facts straight and then come back and apologize that you are wrong.
You wrote - Quote "Whining about him spending this money is just another way of saying he shouldn't defend himself in any way. So why can't he defend himself? " Un Quote --
The reason is very simple. As a candidate, in his promises to his constituents, he promised that he would be TRANSPARENT and above question. That promise is a bold face lie as any one with understanding can realize. Legal fees to defend a BIRTH LIE 43 times in assorted courts could have been avoided by simply producing the correct birth certificate. Therefore saving the taxpayers of America close to a million dollars. See how simple it could be if people would not LIE.
As a last resort most Marxists, such as you appear to be, always resort to the good ole RACE CARD. Is that all you have left? You then wrote Quote--" Because Obama is guilty of being a Kenyan." Un Quote -- You have insisted in all of your rhetoric rantings that Obama was a good ole American who was born in the United States of America. Now you yourself have admitted that Marxist Obama is a KENYAN. You yourself said it - I didn't say it. When you make up your minds then come back and apologize for being wrong.
By the way I would be willing to bet that you do not know that Obama's Birth certificate has been found.and not in the United States. Now you PROVE otherwise. Have that good day my Marxist friend.
Originally posted by texasgirl
Here's something interesting: It appears the Conservatives are now pouncing on this issue, too. I just saw an attack ad against Obama on tv claiming his Harvard records are sealed, his medical records are sealed, his personal records are sealed, etc...And they posted his birth certificate asking 'who is this man'. Then there's a phone number to call and sign a petition to disqualify Obama from office!
Originally posted by VeritasAequitas
reply to post by spoor
He did not produce a valid birth certificate...The OCR is complete and utter bull#; the Adobe experts that examined his document came to the conclusion that no OCR procedure took place on the document... Why upload it on the internet? Why not get on TV with it in his hands and show the world? Because he doesn't have one...
Originally posted by VeritasAequitas
He did not produce a valid birth certificate
the Adobe experts that examined his document came to the conclusion that no OCR procedure took place on the document
Why upload it on the internet? Why not get on TV with it in his hands and show the world?
Originally posted by spoor
Why do birthers keep telling lies?
reply to post by flyswatter
TextSeede, you are still wrong on the money spent. The number you are referring to is a hair over $2.6 million, and that is the total amount paid to Perkins Coie for all legal services provided to the Obama campaign from 2007 to 2011. None of this is hidden
Originally posted by Seede
reply to post by flyswatter
TextSeede, you are still wrong on the money spent. The number you are referring to is a hair over $2.6 million, and that is the total amount paid to Perkins Coie for all legal services provided to the Obama campaign from 2007 to 2011. None of this is hidden
Mr. Evil
I have not made that assumption at all. I have never said to you or anyone else that Obama spent 2.6 million dollars anywhere or for anything. My original piece in this forum was that Obama spent close to a million dollars on hiding his past. That is a true statement in which I have read from many sources and I believe to be accurate. The birth certificate is just one of many things that have disappeared.
Go back to page 38 and read my answer addressed to Spinalremain and Spoor. You will see my signature signed Seede. In this writing I quoted a Journalist named Steve Baldwin and this was his ball of wax. Not mine and I made that clear in that article. Now the original article that I wrote, I expressed my belief such as many people do on ATS and was immediately jumped on by a field of Obama people as to me being a liar and Obama did not spend millions on legal birth fees. In that article I did expose the Law offices that were used by Obama including Perkins Coie.
Obama had 43 suits against him on birth certificate alone. Out of those 43 charges there were exorbitant lawyer fees charged to the taxpayers and you know that very well. But that was not what I said in the first place. That is just frosting on the cake. What I said, and I will repeat, is that Obama spent nearly a million dollars in hiding his past. Now you read that article by Steve Baldwin that I quoted and then search him on Google. In hiding his past is a very long story and would entail a book of a thousand pages or more. No one in their right mind can tell the world that all of Obama's Senatorial records were simply lost.or for that matter all of his records of civil service as well as college simply got lost too. In fact his high school records simply disappeared too. Come on now -- No sane person would ever believe that.
Getting back to 2,6 million dollars.-- That was not even in the ball park in my original piece and in fact I never said that "the close to a million dollars" was for the birth certificate. But now that it has been opened as a can of worms, I would not doubt that the entire hiding his past would exceed 3 million. I believe he has over 70 lawsuits brought against him and it would be very difficult to put a price on all of this because he gets the entire dept of Justice to defend him as well as do the necessary leg work involved. What do criminal lawyers get for defense in the private sector? Some one has to pay this bill.
You misunderstood the meaning of hidden. I did not say that the law offices or any person was hidden from the public but I did say that his past was hidden from the American people. Big difference . We know the means of who helped him including Pelosi and the DC gang and we know the Lawyers and offices who protected him. That is not hidden from the public, but all of his past has disappeared, Very transparent don't you think?
President Obama was born in Honolulu, and his birth certificate is valid.
Regarding the latest allegations from a sheriff in Arizona, they are untrue, misinformed, and misconstrue Hawaii law.
Originally posted by VeritasAequitas
reply to post by spoor
He did not produce a valid birth certificate...The OCR is complete and utter bull#; the Adobe experts that examined his document came to the conclusion that no OCR procedure took place on the document... Why upload it on the internet? Why not get on TV with it in his hands and show the world? Because he doesn't have one...