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Originally posted by VeritasAequitas
reply to post by EvilSadamClone
Because we never said he wasn't allowed to defend himself...The only defense he needs is releasing his actual birth certificate; not spending 3 million dollars of our tax payer money to defend himself. If he just released his actual birth certificate, it would be over. He has done nothing but stir and thicken the plot deeper. Hell if it's about 'privacy', I'll release my own birth certificate because I could care less. Also kind of hard for people to steal your Identity when you are/were a President of the United States...Stuff like that tends to stick out...
That is not racism or bigotry, it is common sense. The truth sets you free; not a hell of a lot of money, time and court trials.edit on 21-7-2012 by VeritasAequitas because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by kyviecaldges
reply to post by flyswatter
Obama has never released an official copy of his birth certificate.
If he did then these lawsuits would be dismissed in summary judgement.
This is because a legit copy of his long form birth certificate would be admitted as prima facie evidence.
This has never happened.
And according to Barry's handlers, this will never happen.
This is by far the easiest recourse to the truth, but yet no lawsuit has been dismissed in summary judgement due to prima facie evidence.
The best that anyone can do is post a link to Hawaiin officials stating that his BC is real.
But yet funny enough this does not meet the requirement for prima facie evidence.
It has never been proven that he is a naturalized citizen.
It has never been proven that he is not a naturalized citizen.
No one knows.
And the people who supposedly do refuse to testify under oath, which would constitute prima facie evidence.
No one will address this.
The best that you deathers can do is blow smoke and create a fog of pointless arguments to try and distract people.
And if that doesn't work you start personally attacking people.
It's a tired technique and it is so obvious.
Hawaii has stated he was born there, and that his BC is valid. I am sorry if you cannot accept that.
Originally posted by VeritasAequitas
reply to post by EvilSadamClone
In case you didn't get the memo, I've also asked to see the Birth Certificates of all the other Presidents based on ascertaining one thing...That is finding out if having a Birth Certificate is necessary or not. My issue with his Birth Certificate, is not him being born in Kenya, my issue is with him having a birth certificate in and of itself due to capitis deminutio maxima. Having a Birth Certificate makes you a second class slave citizen to the true sovereigns or State Citizens, which the original presidents of this country really were. You 'Deathers' or 'Anti-Birthers' don't even realize the whole thing has nothing to do with or with not being Kenyan. As for you and flyswatter I could care less about your condescending comments. I do not have to respond as you have chosen to. At least I am discerning enough to see the bigger picture here and dig deeper. You are both clearly the representation of how brainwashed they have everybody if you are going to take a corrupted government for their word.
This is NOT about being Kenyan or Hawaiian. It is about rather he really has a Birth Certificate or not, which he doesn't and is why he was forced to release a forgery. Not because he was born in Kenya, but because the American people en masse can never find out the truth about what a birth certificate makes you.
I have neither the time nor the inclination to argue with people who think they know how shallow the rabbit hole is. I assure you; it is MUCH MUCH deeper.
Originally posted by kyviecaldges
reply to post by flyswatter
Hawaii has stated he was born there, and that his BC is valid. I am sorry if you cannot accept that.
But yet they refuse to testify to this under oath.
All these court cases could be taken care of really easily if they testified to this under oath.
That is because the lawsuits questioning his eligibility would be dismissed by summary judgement if he was to...
enter prima facie evidence into a court of law.
Not one single lawsuit has been dismissed due to prima facie evidence.
Funny how many politicians, like the Hawaiian officials, will swear to God that something is true but yet they just wont testify under oath.
I mean it's not like politicians lie.
Do they?
After all Iraq has weapons of mass destruction.
Originally posted by kyviecaldges
reply to post by flyswatter
Hawaii has stated he was born there, and that his BC is valid. I am sorry if you cannot accept that.
But yet they refuse to testify to this under oath.
All these court cases could be taken care of really easily if they testified to this under oath.
That is because the lawsuits questioning his eligibility would be dismissed by summary judgement if he was to...
enter prima facie evidence into a court of law.
Not one single lawsuit has been dismissed due to prima facie evidence.
Funny how many politicians, like the Hawaiian officials, will swear to God that something is true but yet they just wont testify under oath.
I mean it's not like politicians lie. Do they? After all Iraq has weapons of mass destruction.
Originally posted by VeritasAequitas
reply to post by flyswatter
Actually you are wrong...I HAVE THE POWER TO ELECT HIM; and before I put my faith in a man I don't even know, I would like to see all the evidence as to why I should trust this man. I know none of these greedy corporate dirtbags, and trust them less than I know them. If he wants me to elect him as my official or President. This is a job application, and we the people are the employers. If you can't get that by now, I advise you to go read a copy of the Constitution or relevant materials.
I could care less about corrupted Hawaiian officials endorsing a corrupted Government's word. It does NOTHING for their credibility.
Hawaii stated his BC is there, and is valid. They are the authority on this, and no, we cant see it.
They dont have to. These claims are dismissed and/or defeated because the burden of proof is not being met, and there has been no demonstrated requirement for the BC to be seen.
Originally posted by kyviecaldges
But yet they refuse to testify to this under oath.
All these court cases could be taken care of really easily if they testified to this under oath.
That is because the lawsuits questioning his eligibility would be dismissed by summary judgement if he was to...
enter prima facie evidence into a court of law.
but yet they just wont testify under oath.