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Originally posted by Xcalibur254
The number comes from Obama's campaign finance reports.
Originally posted by EvilSadamClone
reply to post by kyviecaldges
The cold hard truth is yes he has, people like you just don't want believe and have already made up your mind and nothing's going to to change it. And yet you expect everybody else to jsut bow down and take your word and believe you.
Laughable.
Originally posted by Milkflavour
Aaaaaargh! Does no one think things through or do they just spend all their time looking for 'evidence' on Wikipedia or 'fruit-loopsnews.com' to back up their 'facts'?? This is the worlds most powerful government we're talking about, you think they're using a 2010 edition of photoshop to produce fake documents?
Right...
To borrow from an utterly terrible yet inexplicably popular film franchise: " hello ATS, I want to play a game..."
It's one i've just invented and it's called "But they can't fake a birth certificate?!" it's easy to play, it goes like this you say: "TPTB can... *insert ludicrous conspiracy here* ... But THEY CAN'T FAKE A BIRTH CERTIFICATE?!
Here, I'll start with a couple, please join in:
"TPTB can fake a massive terrorist attack in downtown New York, destroying two of the most iconic buildings in America, killing thousands of innocent people, in front of millions of witnesses, blame it all on actual known terrorists they manage to strategically manoeuvre into position JUST at the right time, and leave no trail back to them, no solid proof AND not a single person comes forward to speak of it... BUT THEY CAN'T FAKE A BIRTH CERTIFICATE?!"
Or
"TPTB can cover up the fact that we are being visited by numerous species of intergalactic space people, can shoot them down, back engineer the technology and go zipping about the galaxy in flying saucers, all while managing to surpress all actual, variable evidence.... BUT!!! ..... Dun Dun DUUUH!! THEY CAN'T FAKE A
BIRTH CERTIFICATE?!"
Your turn
Originally posted by spinalremain
Reply to post by kyviecaldges
how can one use a dam pdf to determine whether or not a document is real?
Are you being deliberately brainless, or do you read too much WND?
Of course they threw it out! It's digital! What the hell can they discern from it? That it has layers? Next.
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Originally posted by longlostbrother
reply to post by Deetermined
Oh, back in March, that was the case, but since then:
www.obamaconspiracy.org...
Found, digitized and uploaded a few hours after Joe went and lied to the media...
see page 6/12
Most importantly, Arizona courts are bound by United States Supreme Court precedent, and this precedent fully supports that President Obama is a natural born citizen under the Constitution and thus qualified to hold the office of President. See United States v. Wong Kim Ark (addressing U. S. Const. amend. XIV) ; Ankeny v. Governor of the State of Indiana (addressing the precise issue). Contrary to Plaintiff’s assertion, Minor v. Happersett does not hold otherwise
Obama "became a citizen at birth and is a natural-born citizen,"
President Obama was a United States citizen at the moment of his birth in Hawaii. Since he held citizenship at birth all constitutional qualifications have been met. There is no basis to question the presidents citizenship or qualifications to hold office
I have reviewed and considered the legal authority submitted by the plaintiff and the Defendants on this issue and conclude as a matter of law that this allegation, if true, would not make the candidate ineligible for office. Cited Hollander v. McCain and Ankeny v. Governor of Indiana.
The eligibility requirements to be president of the United States are such that the individual must be a "natural born citizen" of the United States and at least thirty-five years of age. U.S. Const. art. II, S1. It is well settled that those born in the United States are considered natural born citizens. See, e.g United States v Ark, 169 U.S 649, 702 (1898)
The Fourteenth Amendment of the Constitution, in the declaration that
“all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside,”
contemplates two sources of citizenship, and two only: birth and naturalization. Citizenship by naturalization can only be acquired by naturalization under the authority and in the forms of law. But citizenship by birth is established by the mere fact of birth under the circumstances defined in the Constitution. Every person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, becomes at once a citizen of the United States, and needs no naturalization
Originally posted by karen61057
reply to post by OutKast Searcher
I want to know what these codes are that they are talking about. The Hawaii birth certificates have secret codes on them? For what purpose?
Where did the 95 year old worker live again? Was she from Hawaii? Was someone from the state of Hawaii explaining codes on a birth certificate that was never from Hawaii in the first place? ( according to Sheriff Arpaio)
I am confused. If he was not born in Hawaii and the birth certificate is a fake then how are the codes on the birth certificate real ?