BREAKTHROUGH: Scientists Invent Particles That Will Let You Live Without Breathing, page 5

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This would be vital for me personally, let's say I don't breathe well.

Originally posted by karen61057
reply to post by BIHOTZ

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Obesity is rampant in this country. We sure do need the lastest weight loss drug. Obesity is a killer.

I disagree - obesity is, in most cases, by choice, which is why people are more interested in treatments which could help anyone who has a tragedy happen where they are unable to breathe. Weight-loss drugs are just tools to help the lazy temporarily lose weight, usually without any move toward improving nutrition.

Yes, obesity is a killer, and diabetes costs me thousands of dollars annually (nobody in my family has it, but a big part of our health insurance costs is to pay for the eating habits / lack of exercise of others), but more drugs is not the answer. Every drug has its drawbacks, and should never be taken when a behavioral change could do the job for 99% of patients. Yes, I realize pharmacies would go under, and "Big "Pharma" wouldn't be so big anymore, but better that a few darkside businesses go under than a nation's drug dependency worsens simply he ause the populace has become too weak-minded and uneducated.

reply to post by v1rtu0s0

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Well in all this gloom and doom at least there is some good news and cool things once in a while. Something like this does have a lot of potential for use in any number of things and of ways, especially in areas were oxygen is not predominant, such as space and like they said for medical purposes.

How will it be used? Well that all depends on the ones who will be using it and there reasons.

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You wouldn't flash freeze in space.... How can you freeze in a vaccum, if you are producing heat through metabolism... It takes a considerably long time for objects to cool down in space, strikingly enough the bigger concern would be burning due to solar radiation, there is absolutely nothing to protect you from the solar radiation.
Space is a vaccuum( so we are told) so with out particles to transfer heat energy away from your body, it would be very unlikely that you would " flash freeze." If you look into any of the space suits to protect astronauts, almost all of the technology is there to protect astronauts from extreme heat, not the latter.

"Heat does not transfer out of the body very rapidly in the absence of a medium such as air or water, so freezing to death is not an immediate risk in outer space despite the extreme cold."


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Originally posted by dogstar23

Originally posted by karen61057
reply to post by BIHOTZ

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Obesity is rampant in this country. We sure do need the lastest weight loss drug. Obesity is a killer.

I disagree - obesity is, in most cases, by choice, which is why people are more interested in treatments which could help anyone who has a tragedy happen where they are unable to breathe. Weight-loss drugs are just tools to help the lazy temporarily lose weight, usually without any move toward improving nutrition.

Yes, obesity is a killer, and diabetes costs me thousands of dollars annually (nobody in my family has it, but a big part of our health insurance costs is to pay for the eating habits / lack of exercise of others), but more drugs is not the answer. Every drug has its drawbacks, and should never be taken when a behavioral change could do the job for 99% of patients. Yes, I realize pharmacies would go under, and "Big "Pharma" wouldn't be so big anymore, but better that a few darkside businesses go under than a nation's drug dependency worsens simply he ause the populace has become too weak-minded and uneducated.

So diabetes only strikes the obese and it's their fault your premiums are so high? Talk about weak-minded and uneducated. Nazi much?

There are genes that cause diabetes that also predispose people to become obese. It kind of goes hand-in-hand in many cases; obese because diabetic. Hard to avoid. Easy targets for blame though, so nice going.

There are diabetics that aren't obese that still require the drugs. What do you say to them? Die so my premiums can go down, i know you're not fat but you're still a burden on me? Who will you blame next? People with MS, or cancer, or anemia? Anyone with a chronic illness that is not on your blame list?

Originally posted by primus2012

Originally posted by dogstar23

Originally posted by karen61057
reply to post by BIHOTZ

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Obesity is rampant in this country. We sure do need the lastest weight loss drug. Obesity is a killer.

I disagree - obesity is, in most cases, by choice, which is why people are more interested in treatments which could help anyone who has a tragedy happen where they are unable to breathe. Weight-loss drugs are just tools to help the lazy temporarily lose weight, usually without any move toward improving nutrition.

Yes, obesity is a killer, and diabetes costs me thousands of dollars annually (nobody in my family has it, but a big part of our health insurance costs is to pay for the eating habits / lack of exercise of others), but more drugs is not the answer. Every drug has its drawbacks, and should never be taken when a behavioral change could do the job for 99% of patients. Yes, I realize pharmacies would go under, and "Big "Pharma" wouldn't be so big anymore, but better that a few darkside businesses go under than a nation's drug dependency worsens simply he ause the populace has become too weak-minded and uneducated.

So diabetes only strikes the obese and it's their fault your premiums are so high? Talk about weak-minded and uneducated. Nazi much?

There are genes that cause diabetes that also predispose people to become obese. It kind of goes hand-in-hand in many cases; obese because diabetic. Hard to avoid. Easy targets for blame though, so nice going.

There are diabetics that aren't obese that still require the drugs. What do you say to them? Die so my premiums can go down, i know you're not fat but you're still a burden on me? Who will you blame next? People with MS, or cancer, or anemia? Anyone with a chronic illness that is not on your blame list?

Wow...you didn't even read my post at all, especially the first paragraph, did you? Just wanted to put words in my mouth which were nothing like what I wrote so that you could call me a nazi? Not only did I blatantly indicate I was referring to by-choice obesity representing "most cases" of obesity, I was explaining why there is more interest in this than the world's 10,000th weight-loss drug. Please, before you attack me and start calling me a nazi (which my Polish Catholic family in Poland would just love), at least take the time to read my post. I think nothing like what you said, and not only do I not think people shouldn't be treated as your creepy fantasy version of me does,I believe we should have universal healthcare for all. So in the words of Mike Ditka, "who are you crappin?"

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