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Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
reply to post by coop039
You use it to look at what your premiums will be under the healthcare bill.
I find it funny that no one is posting any numbers...I think people are findng out that it really isn't going to cost them as much as they think.
Originally posted by butcherguy
reply to post by Indigo5
I wouldn't trust anything the weasel said, let alone assign more credibility to him on constitutional issues than the SCOTUS.
Maybe you would like to address this question as to the infallibility of SCOTUS.
Is it possible for the Supreme Court to screw something up?
“This government takeover of health care remains as destructive, unsustainable, and unconstitutional as it was the day it was passed, unread, by a since-fired congressional majority. Now as then, our first step toward real health care reform and economic renewal remains Obamacare’s full repeal, down to the last letter and punctuation mark.
“The President’s health care law must be fully repealed as all of its promises have proven false. We were told it was not a tax hike, but this ruling confirms it is an unprecedented and enormous tax on the poor and middle class Americans. President Obama needs to explain why he is enacting this middle class tax hike over the objections of the American people during the worst economic recovery since the Great Depression.
“We were told it would lower health costs, but health care premiums are exploding. We were told that Americans could keep their personal health plans, but millions will now lose it. We were told it would improve our economy, but it is now the largest obstacle to employers hiring new workers.
“Today’s decision, however unfortunate, nonetheless represents an opportunity to all Americans, to claim their right to create a health care system of, for, and by the people, not government or special interests. The American people now have the chance and Congress has the responsibility to fully repeal this Washington takeover and reform health care ourselves, together, around the principles of individual liberty, not government mandates.
Originally posted by Char-Lee
Originally posted by BearTruth
Originally posted by Ben81
I have a few questions :
What does that mean .. is there something new with the today decision ?
will it mean everyone will have a new tax to pay for the Obama Health Plan ?
except the military and federal employees
As I understand it, if you purchase the insurance required by the bill, or have insurance from employment or Medicaid/Medicare, you will not be subject to the 1% tax. However, if you refuse/decline to maintain health insurance, you will be levied with the tax on your income. BT
In other words those who cannot afford the insurance like my family are the ones who will now be punished for being poor in the first place.
Originally posted by lynn112
reply to post by OutKast Searcher
I'm sorry, but no, I won't tell you the exact figures because they are my personal information. Kind of why I'm angry, people/government insisting they know what is best for me and my family when it is not their business.
Also, did you consider that I calculated annual cost increases as we age into my health care budget? Probably not and that doesn't surprise me.
Originally posted by Wolf321
I wish I had the balls to enforce my second amendment rights. I have nothing left.
So I could get it cheaper through Obama care, BUT, my boss wont let me drop the company plan as we are a small company and our rates would go up if we lost a member. He did say that our rates will be going up again as a result of this.
Originally posted by simon2k7
GOOD!...now I won't have to pay 350 dollars to cover my family of 4.....are some of you oposing this stupid?
Originally posted by macman
reply to post by Ben81
Canada? You guys are where we are heading. No thanks.
Originally posted by Sparky63
Howard Dean last year said that it was almost certain to happen.
Howard Dean, a physician, onetime Democratic candidate for president and former head of the Democratic National Committee, said this week that when Obamacare takes full effect, as many as one-third of the nation's small businesses will opt to drop their employee coverage.
"This is very good for small business," Dean said. "There was a McKinsey study, which the Democrats don't like, but I do, and I think it's true. Most small businesses are not going to be in the health insurance business anymore after this thing goes into effect."
The study pointed out that one of Obama's key promises - that employees would be able to keep their employer-provided insurance plans - won't be true for employees of about 45 percent of small businesses, because those same businesses are planning to drop employee coverage because it'll be cheaper for them to do so.
Many will just reduce the number of employees in order to cut costs. This is exactly what is happening where I work.