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The problem here is the Federal Government breaks the law everyday and Arizona their duly elected government tried to handle their own internal matters, as to "nationalism" is exactly what happened today so that the left get their voting base.
Enough with the damn hyperbole how hard is it for anyone to come here the legal way?
Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by Kali74
The problem here is the Federal Government breaks the law everyday and Arizona their duly elected government tried to handle their own internal matters, as to "nationalism" is exactly what happened today so that the left get their voting base.
Enough with the damn hyperbole how hard is it for anyone to come here the legal way?
The same way millions of immigrants have done, but what?
Mexicans so special they get to do whatever the hell they want to?
Apparently and some people are all to happy to oblige.
Originally posted by TheTardis
Why not? If I get pulled over they ask me for a license and registration. I have no problem providing that. So if they stop an illegal and ask for license and registration is that illegal? And if they dont have those then what? They have to let them go because they were not arrested? Do you see how grey and fuzzy this mess just got?
What the hell is that suppose to mean?
Seriously?
What the hell?
I expected better and who else would the Arizona immigration law effect?
Originally posted by jam321
reply to post by TheTardis
The arresting officer would still have to prove probably cause or be held liable. They cant just walk up and say "you look Mexican, Where are your papers". It doesn't work that way but the liberal media wants you to think so.
You don't live in reality. People are stopped everyday because of the color of their skin with no probable cause. And if there is a probable cause it is usually a made up one.
Originally posted by jam321
reply to post by neo96
Because the immigration bill was for all illegals and not just Mexicans. It just piss poor how people want to start off talking about illegal immigration only to turn it into a Mexican thing.
Go ask Sheriff Joe how many Chinese and other nationalities he has put in his tent city. I'm sure Mexicans aren't the only ones Arizona has come across.
You mean the left of the Right. As for securing their voter base, give me a break...that is more lazy logic coming from the far Right. Illegals can't vote and the proof of illegals voting was so outrageously overblown there's not even a word for how ridiculous it is. Reality tells a different story. To be honest though, I don't even care about Democrats they're as idiotic as Republicans.
It is hardly hyperbole, this is how it started in Germany with Jewish people.
Originally posted by habitforming
Originally posted by TheTardis
Why not? If I get pulled over they ask me for a license and registration. I have no problem providing that. So if they stop an illegal and ask for license and registration is that illegal? And if they dont have those then what? They have to let them go because they were not arrested? Do you see how grey and fuzzy this mess just got?
Um...he will still be guilty of driving without a license if he fails to show one when being pulled over which is a crime he can be detained for.
Can a cop just pull you over on the sidewalk where you appear to be walking and sober and not presenting a danger to yourself or others and ask you to prove you are not guilty of a crime?edit on 25-6-2012 by habitforming because: (no reason given)
Let's not get caught up in calling racism. They are Mexican. Hell, they'd be the first to tell you they are.
You know what? When I was out of the country I was told it was illegal for me to walk around without my passport. I didnt complain. That was the law in that country from what I was told and I was happy to abide by it. And people around here that walk around without any ID are called homeless people.
Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
reply to post by neo96
What the hell is that suppose to mean?
Seriously?
What the hell?
I expected better and who else would the Arizona immigration law effect?
Oh, I don't know...El Salvadorians, Guatemalans, Hondurans, Ecudaorians, Chinese, Philipinos, Koreans, Candadians, Russians, Germans, British, Australians...shall I go on???
But you go ahead...and just point out the Mexicans...and then claim it isn't about racial profiling
Your double speak is very bad.
If every law is to be enforced, then why did 0bama just last week say certain laws won't be?
Sure, when the process was not followed, or a number of other things.
Ah,, I see the nature of this statement. You are trying to lay ground work in defense of selective enforcement of lower level laws.
Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
reply to post by TheTardis
Did you see the penalties for hiring illegals...they are laughable.
Suspending your business license...
Not a problem...create another corp and get another one.
Seriously...it's sad that you think that is coming down hard on the employers.
No we are ignorant to the "facts" as you perceive them but if there is one thing I have learned on this board so far is that you speak for the vast minority so therefore I must understand the "facts" the way the majority understands them and I am good with that.