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Originally posted by captaintyinknots
Originally posted by sonnny1
Well,look at it this way........
What REAL reason does she need all this information,when her OWN Husband,didn't need it,for his bid for Presidency?
Since nobody seems to get it, I'll say it again: SHE IS NOT ASKING FOR THIS INFO. THE SECRET SERVICE IS. The thread title is blatantly false and misleading.
This is just sad.edit on 17-6-2012 by captaintyinknots because: (no reason given)
You are going to have to prove that to me. I have never been turned away because someone already voted in my name. I am old enough to have become eligible to vote more than once.
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Dead people voting is a type of election fraud that occurs when the name of a deceased person remains on a state's official list of registered voters and a living person fraudulently casts a ballot in that name.
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A voter fraud controversy is currently taking place in South Carolina after the Department of Motor vehicles discovered that 953 deceased registered voters appeared to have voted in state elections. The state’s attorney general, Alan Wilson (R), is now asking the Feds to investigate elections dating back to before the 2008 presidential election. There is no evidence of this occurring in Saturday’s primary election, but Wilson says it is a possibility.
According to the report, some of the voters passed away as far back as six years ago, and 37,000 deceased individuals were still on the state’s voter rolls after they died. These recent allegations come as the Department of Justice has blocked the state’s controversial voter photo ID law, claiming it discriminates against minorities.
Originally posted by RealSpoke
reply to post by seabag
I never attacked you or even mentioned you.
Yawn
When right wingers get desperate their stories get sillier and sillier.
Stick to the real reasons why Obama is bad, not garbage stories like this, they just make you look bad.
Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by seabag
They just don't get it,and apparently never will.
Ask for ID to cash a check
Open a bank account
Buy a car
Buy a home
Get pulled over for speeding
Got see the like totally awesome FLOTUS
No problemo.
Ask for it at a voluntary act of voting
Racist!
Wrong!
You hate Poor People!
And for millions of Americans who drive to the polling booth by law they should already have it on them,
The anti argument to the op is ludicrious.
Dead people do vote
Felons vote
illegals vote.
Meh
Originally posted by seabag
reply to post by xEphon
I read the thread.
It's based on an apples versus oranges cry of hypocricy in regards to two wildly different scenarios.
Clearly, you have no understanding of the debate of requiring voter ID's as is made painfully obvious by the fact you're trying to equate it to the standard protocol of requiring ID's for the protection of the presidential family.
They both have the word "ID" in them so they must be related. Is that really your logic?
Well, you’ve exposed yourself now because that question has been raised (and answered) 10 times already.
Nice try…I’m not going to waste my time answering again.
I don’t know who called you into this thread to ‘tow the line’ but it’s obvious….either that or you just didn’t read the thread.
It’s sad that people still help the elites rule the roost. I’d have figured you’d all be tired of the status quo by now.
What’s it going to be for you; 4 more years of Obama?
Sad!
I have no idea what you're even talking about.
If you knew anything about me and what I believe in you would know that I think both major political parties are two sides of the same coin; so, no, I'm not here to tow any line, unless that line is common sense and critical thinking.
I read all 8 almost 9 pages so far and not once did anyone make a valid reason as to why asking for ID's for presidential security reasons is in any way related to requiring IDs to vote.
I personally don't see why requiring ID's to vote is a bad thing; however, I understand the oppositions point. The current voter laws have been relatively sufficent in preventing voter fraud, so, requiring IDs is just another step that may discourage people from voting. Not everyone has an ID and for those that don't, it's typically the lower class and minorities, hence the racist accusations.
To that, I say, well get an ID! But, that's my opinion. If the current system that's in place has been working, then it's really a debate I'd rather not get into.
However, to make these two issues mutually inclusive is just partisan bait tactics. I personally think its fine if states require voter IDs. I also think the presidential family needs protection. And, i'm sure there are many on here who think requiring voter IDs is rubbish but also think the presidential family needs protection.
Would I call them hypocrites? Never.
Originally posted by seabag
You are a youngster, huh?
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Dead people voting is a type of election fraud that occurs when the name of a deceased person remains on a state's official list of registered voters and a living person fraudulently casts a ballot in that name.
This seems like an easy way for illegals to vote, right; just claim they are a person who is deceased…the voting monitors have no reason to try and verify DEATH when the person’s name is on the damn role!!
As far as the “proof” you requested…..
A voter fraud controversy is currently taking place in South Carolina after the Department of Motor vehicles discovered that 953 deceased registered voters appeared to have voted in state elections. The state’s attorney general, Alan Wilson (R), is now asking the Feds to investigate elections dating back to before the 2008 presidential election. There is no evidence of this occurring in Saturday’s primary election, but Wilson says it is a possibility.
You do not really know what proof is, do you? A republican made a claim that is being looked into. Hardly proof his claim holds any water.
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According to the report, some of the voters passed away as far back as six years ago, and 37,000 deceased individuals were still on the state’s voter rolls after they died. These recent allegations come as the Department of Justice has blocked the state’s controversial voter photo ID law, claiming it discriminates against minorities.
The word Naïve comes to mind…
Just saying!
I guess if that is what you call someone in their 40s then yeah.
Sure that seems real easy. Who publishes these lists for illegal voters to know what name and address to go in with? How many cases of this have been prosecuted?
Originally posted by neo96
I am old enough to have become eligible to vote more than once.
Really?
Someone is eligible to vote more than once?
Reminds me of vote early and vote often.
Originally posted by seabag
I call that uniformed! I'm in my late 30's and I know what's going on so you have no excuse!
The voting jurisdictions do! And NOT ENOUGH have been prosecuted! Who pays for that??
The reality is that it HAPPENS and you’re being disingenuous.
Keep drinking Kool Aid, dude…you’re free to do so! I’m fee to call BS when I see it!
Originally posted by habitforming
Originally posted by neo96
I am old enough to have become eligible to vote more than once.
Really?
Someone is eligible to vote more than once?
Reminds me of vote early and vote often.
Your reading skills reading are lacking. Old enough to have become eligible to vote....more than once. Nothing about voting more than once. Reaching the age of eligibility more than once. Jesus Christ I cannot believe how much I have to explain to you.
You call being in my 40s uninformed? Cuz that makes sense.
I need to see these publications you speak of. I have never seen a list of dead voters.
And you mean you cannot find any actual cases of this happening? I would have at least thought you might find a handful but none eh?
This is my third time asking you to prove it to me. I am not denying anything. I am asking you to make me believe. So far you a failing.
While NAACP President Benjamin Jealous lashed out at new state laws requiring photo ID for voting, an NAACP executive sits in prison, sentenced for carrying out a massive voter fraud scheme.
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Sowers was found guilty of voting in the names of Carrie Collins, Walter Howard, Sheena Shelton, Alberta Pickett, Draper Cotton and Eddie Davis. She was also convicted of voting in the names of four dead persons: James L. Young, Dora Price, Dorothy Harris, and David Ross.