I joined the Communist Party

Socialism is considered a bridge to communism. Marx said it, Lenin said it, and this guy says it

vladimiruhri.hubpages.com...

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Is it not sad when a Norwegian is more proficient in English and English grammar than an Amerikan? I am far from perfect in English, as it is not my language, but come on...

Originally posted by brukernavn
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Hitler was a HUGE capitalist. It is proven fact. I beg you to prove me wrong. He partnered with Ford, Rockefeller, IBM, and many others. Hitler could not have done what he did if he were not capitalist.

Really now so name me a leftist leader of any nation who did anything without capital? I can't believe I am even responding to this non-sense. But thanks for illustrating how truly ignorant and convoluted your thinking is.... Hitler was a capitalist. LOL!

I have to admit the redefining of terms is very successful of the enemies of freedom and look at this perfect example of how well it works here, you got to give them credit.

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
Socialism is considered a bridge to communism. Marx said it, Lenin said it, and this guy says it

vladimiruhri.hubpages.com...

Marx also said that democracy is the road to socialism. Checkmate.

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Leftist leader? what does that have to do with the right-wing Hitler of Germany?

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Give whom credit? Honestly, I desire to know and learn from my experiences. Although we are having quite the disagreement, I have no ill wishes against you. I wish to thank you for the debate.

Marx also said, "Behind every successful man is a woman, behind her is his wife."

What's the problem with Joining the Communist Party. Not something I would do myself, but there are plenty of Anarcho Capitalists on ATS, who 's ideology is just as extreme, with the potential to be abused.

Originally posted by brukernavn
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Bearing your own burden and reaping only what you sow is exactly what communism is. Capitalism is reaping what other people sow.

edit on 6/12/2012 by brukernavn because: misspelt sow

Wow you have really bought the BS haven't you. What you are describing is freedom and free markets. So please explain how this communism you describe is any different then freedom and free markets? And here I always thought communism is all work for the good of the whole and everyone puts there fruits into the pot and everyone receives according to his needs.

If this is really true communism then why bother with the label it is really just true freedom no need to lose family and friends over it just be for freedom. Or is this somehow supposed to be enforced by some authority?

Originally posted by beezzer
Marx also said, "Behind every successful man is a woman, behind her is his wife."

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Originally posted by woodwardjnr
What's the problem with Joining the Communist Party. Not something I would do myself, but there are plenty of Anarcho Capitalists on ATS, who 's ideology is just as extreme, with the potential to be abused.

Really how would Anarcho Capitalist be abused since they are basically against having any government and having maximum freedom therefore would have no power to abuse?

Maximum freedom is extreme?

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You have a very valid point. Perhaps there should not be a name associated with it. I know that I am only one wretched person, but my perfect world would be small government for all and the ability to reap the rewards of your labor.

Originally posted by brukernavn
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If hard work pays under capitalism, why do the people that literally sweat their asses off and risk their lives every day make much much much much much much much much less than executives? Please explain.

This is an entire field of economics not easily discussed in just a few minutes.

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It's still a society with humans in it. You have 50 million in America on food stamps with no medical insurance. Remove all that and you have destitution for 50 million Americans. Yes vey peaceful and moral I'm sure. No regulations for business's. Just pure Freedom of the markets. whats to stop the formation of monopolies that dictate the market. what's to stop using child labour and workhouses. Don't talk to me about non violence when Anarcho Capitalism is basically the law of the jungle.

Originally posted by brukernavn
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Leftist leader? what does that have to do with the right-wing Hitler of Germany?

Apparently you do not understand what he is saying. He says Hitler is a right wing capitalist because he got money from corporations or used capital to finance his war machine. So I asked him to name a leftist leader who did not use capital to finance their escapades.

Hitler was a fascist not a capitalist!

Originally posted by woodwardjnr
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It's still a society with humans in it. You have 50 million in America on food stamps with no medical insurance. Remove all that and you have destitution for 50 million Americans. Yes vey peaceful and moral I'm sure. No regulations for business's. Just pure Freedom of the markets. whats to stop the formation of monopolies that dictate the market. what's to stop using child labour and workhouses. Don't talk to me about non violence when Anarcho Capitalism is basically the law of the jungle.

Prosperity stops it. monopolies are created by government protection of politically connected cronies not free markets. freedom stops all the things you mention its tried and true it is what made america great. All the problems were created by government intervention limiting choices and markets till we ended up where we are today!

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CNN? But I watch predominantly FOX news. O.o. I am not the "liberal" that you think I am.

Originally posted by brukernavn
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If hard work pays under capitalism, why do the people that literally sweat their asses off and risk their lives every day make much much much much much much much much less than executives? Please explain.

Because they are not in a capitalist free market their choices are limited by government intervention stifling competition in the markets for their politically connected corporations.

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How does Anarcho capitalism adress the huge disparity in wealth?. It does not, it will only perpetuate it. It's a utopian idea like communism, that does not take into account human nature. Anarcho Capitalism would remove rights of the employee and leave vulnerable people open to exploitation.

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I agree with you. Hitler was most definitely a right-wing fascist.