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posted on Jun, 12 2012 @ 05:46 AM
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Oh, so the US and the West are not capitalist. Good to know.




posted on Jun, 12 2012 @ 05:51 AM
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Originally posted by woodwardjnr
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How does Anarcho capitalism adress the huge disparity in wealth?. It does not, it will only perpetuate it. It's a utopian idea like communism, that does not take into account human nature. Anarcho Capitalism would remove rights of the employee and leave vulnerable people open to exploitation.


It addresses it with freedom and absence of government protection for the politically connected crony corps! The huge disparity in wealth has been caused but government intervention into the free market stifling fair competition and protecting markets for politically connected cronies.

The proof is in the pudding free markets created the most wealthy prosperous nation on earth with the highest standard of living for the most people from 1798 to 1913 and beyond despite its many flaws. That is not even arguable. Why do people ignore history?

maxim
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posted on Jun, 12 2012 @ 05:51 AM
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Faen. I am done for the night. I am staying with my grandmother tonight to support her because my grandfather just died. She just asked me if I have had a wet dream recently. Now that I am scarred for life, I shall retire for the evening. O.o God natt, alle sammen.



posted on Jun, 12 2012 @ 05:53 AM
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Yes, the US became prosperous after the raping of Europe and Japan during WWII.



posted on Jun, 12 2012 @ 05:56 AM
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what a discussion!!!!!! i applaud most of you. those keeping it civil and respectful generally... well done. learning a lot here.
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posted on Jun, 12 2012 @ 05:57 AM
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Also built on the backs of slave labour. Things like this will happen again under Anarcho capitalism as there are no rules on employment or pay or discrimination. Everyman for himself. Law of the Jungle. It's the ideologies the Bankers and Industrialist would love. get government out of the way so they are free to use and abuse without restriction.



posted on Jun, 12 2012 @ 06:05 AM
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"Communism is the brain-child of a Jesuit priest, Engel. Engel taught Marx. Communism gives great power to very few at the top. This is the structure desired by Satanists who understand that Satan will have power for a short time. He will need such a world structure like this in order to murder Christians. Communism has killed more innocents than any nation or war."







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posted on Jun, 12 2012 @ 06:22 AM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
Socialism is considered a bridge to communism. Marx said it, Lenin said it, and this guy says it

vladimiruhri.hubpages.com...


Well communism is socialist. Anarchism is socialist. But socialism is not necessarily communist, nor anarchist.

Socialism is a path to communism IF the society decides to go in that direction. You can't force socialism, nor communism. You can't go from capitalism to communism without first establishing socialism.

In other words you can't have the communal ownership, and free distribution of resources, without the workers owning the means of production.

If those of you who keep arguing against this definition of socialism/communism actually read Marx, and other historical left-wing publications, you would realise how wrong you are. Don't try to tell me you have, I know you haven't.
This is obvioulsy not your intellect being challenged here, it's your social conditioning.


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posted on Jun, 12 2012 @ 07:46 AM
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No I am not communist, but I did register as one in 1990 just in case they were going to start drafting people. They don't put communists on the front line.

Communism is the perfect form of government......for ANTS!! Humans differ from person to person so it will never work for us. One size just does not fit all for people. The only people who have ever been half successful at communism is the jews. They love their kibbutzes and enjoy being like that. But even for them it only works in small groups, not whole nations.



posted on Jun, 12 2012 @ 07:47 AM
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It's so sad that somebody can lose their family, friends and significant other over something as trivial as having certain ideological beliefs. I realise that to many people ideological belief is an important factor when deciding who to befriend or associate with, but I personally don't see it as such a big deal. As long as you are not an Extremist of any sort, I do not have a problem with your beliefs.



posted on Jun, 12 2012 @ 08:01 AM
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Engels didn't invent Communism-Try again.

I think the OP would have gotten better response had he proclaimed to worship an evil emanation that lops virgins heads off. I don't get it really.

Sorry about your family, I don't even discuss politics with mine as they are very conservative (typical religious right wing) and they just get upset when I say something.

Oh yeah, If forgot to ass the smilies for ya'lls "minute of hate"

Best get to it.
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posted on Jun, 12 2012 @ 08:19 AM
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I asked a simple of the OP, and I guess my question got lost but that is ok. After going through this thread I have determined the following:

The only countries that have been labled communist really aren't because they paint the communist way of thinking in negative light.



posted on Jun, 12 2012 @ 08:28 AM
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Originally posted by brukernavn
Recently, I formally joined the Communist Party. I have lost long time friends, certain family has disowned me, even my fiancé has left me because of it. Are there any other members of this forum out there that have joined the Communist Party whom have lost their friends and family? I am interested to see how people react to such a thing. In the West, people have learnt to hate communism and instantly abandon anybody with communist leanings. I will admit, I could be wrong for my beliefs, but has anybody else out there been ostracized for believing that communism is the answer?

MVH,
Josef


I can relate Comrade.

It is great to see a guy stand for what he believes in.


The people of the West have been brainwashed. These morons are ignorant and blind. Look at the United States for example. The country is a complete hell hole,loser of a dysfunctional nation, yet they still want to make jokes about communsim.

China has a hybrid. State Capitalism is the most successful model out there. China has proven that pure capitalism is utter stupidity. The United States National Debt proves that capitalism is moronic.

China will be the superpower soon. They bring communism. State Capitalism is Chinese Socialism and when they become sole superpower very soon, they will run the world in a more socialist fashion. You are correct. People making lame jokes about Cuba have no idea in any way shape or form.

I am sorry to hear about your relationship. There are plenty of hot socialist/communist chicks in the sea.

It comforts and excites me to see guys like you. Our numbers grow by the second. We are the near future.
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posted on Jun, 12 2012 @ 08:30 AM
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www.cia.gov...

Country name:
conventional long form: Republic of Cuba
conventional short form: Cuba
local long form: Republica de Cuba
local short form: Cuba

Government type: Communist state


Cuba, doesn't work for you pick another communist country. So why don't you go live in a communist country versus trying to convert a country into communism or become part of a party virtually has no chance of making any chances?
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posted on Jun, 12 2012 @ 08:35 AM
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Originally posted by interupt42
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Cuba, doesn't work for you pick another communist country. So why don't you go live in a communist country versus trying to convert a country into communism or become part of a party virtually has no chance of making any chances?
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I find it really funny how certain people prattle on about Freedom and every other American buzzword they can think of yet they just can't stand someone having a different idea. Your argument is simply "I don't like what you believe so STFU and get out". Doesn't sound like you value freedom of thought much to me.

Your entire argument is "Be like me or GTFO". It's not clever and it's very much anti-freedom.
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posted on Jun, 12 2012 @ 08:38 AM
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Sorry your familly and friends dumped on you for having different political beliefs. As long as you don't try to force your beliefs on them it should be a live and let live world. Really makes your friends look closed minded, your better off without them.



posted on Jun, 12 2012 @ 08:57 AM
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Originally posted by antonia

Originally posted by interupt42
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Cuba, doesn't work for you pick another communist country. So why don't you go live in a communist country versus trying to convert a country into communism or become part of a party virtually has no chance of making any chances?
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I find it really funny how certain people prattle on about Freedom and every other American buzzword they can think of yet they just can't stand someone having a different idea.

he doesn't just have an idea he actively joined a party that believes in taking away my freedoms. I wasn't attacking him I asked a valid question. Why try to convert a country that its MAJORITY is against such ideas versus simply moving to a country that embraces his ideas? Why is that so bad to ask ?


Originally posted by antonia
Your argument is simply "I don't like what you believe so STFU and get out". Doesn't sound like you value freedom of thought much to me.

Your entire argument is "Be like me or GTFO". It's not clever and it's very much anti-freedom.
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I didn't tell him to STFU and I'm not against opposing views or looking at things differently (actually I enjoy hearing all sides or arguments). I simply asked a question and I didn't tell him to GTFO. Why was asking a question so offensive? Its sounds more like you are trying to tell me to STFU because you didn't like my question?





posted on Jun, 12 2012 @ 09:16 AM
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Originally posted by interupt42


he doesn't just have an idea he actively joined a party that believes in taking away my freedoms. I wasn't attacking him I asked a valid question. Why try to convert a country that its MAJORITY is against such ideas versus simply moving to a country that embraces his ideas? Why is that so bad to ask ?



I don't know, why do Christians go out and convert people? You are just trying to excuse your rude behavior. Freedom entails the right of people to organize for the cause of their choice. It's pretty obvious you just see this guy as the enemy without even having a grasp on what he believes. Then again, if he's the minority you don't have to worry about him do you?
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posted on Jun, 12 2012 @ 09:17 AM
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None of this matters because soon we will transition into the global rule of lucifer. Try and stick a label on that!?



posted on Jun, 12 2012 @ 09:30 AM
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This thread just highlights painfully that most American ATS members are politically illiterate and don't have the first bit of understanding when it comes to political theory. China was Communist? Don't make me laugh!





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