posted on Jun, 12 2012 @ 03:45 AM
Originally posted by brukernavn
For those of you whom assumed. I am not american. I am Norwegian. Communism appeals to me because of the belief of the worker having ownership.
Communism has never been seen in modern history. I disagree with the works of Marx, Lenin and Mao. I have read them all. The transition phase that
they say is necessary has always failed. Once a human has absolute power (dictator), they will never "step down". It is human nature to keep
whatever power one holds. I only believe in worker ownership. So much is misconceived, from anti-communist bigotry... I have heard so much of "if
you do not want to work, you get the same as those that work." Where the hell does that thinking come from? In a true communist society, you only
get what you put in. If you CHOOSE to not work, you get NOTHING. The workers only get what they produce. Is that not common sense? My favourite
source of info is Johnny Cash. He grew up under communism in Dyess Arkansas. Read up on how he grew up and the way that they shared in their labor.
The most successful places in America are that way because they practiced communism.
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it... I misspelt Arkansas
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So you agree that it has never been implemented and every time it has been tried it was through force and ended up a tyranny and dictatorship. Good
that is a start. Now tell me how do you propose to implement the worker owned means of production? Where will you get the capital and resources needed
to start production? Do you seriously think all the workers will agree with how things will be done and who does what? How will you decide how to
distribute the fruits of the labor of the workers? Do you think everyone will be happy with how things are distributed?
Here is the flaws with that system, no two people are alike and some people work faster then other some work harder and some are lazy. So those who
work faster and harder will feel slighted if they are distributed equally as those who are lazy. So what do they do well they stop working harder and
faster because why should they if they are only getting the same as someone who does not do as much as they do or less skilled or sloppy etc. Its
human nature and that is why it has failed through out history. Then comes along guys like Marx Lenin Stalin Mao etc. and says oh what you need is a
strong central leadership to ensure that everyone pulls their weight and of course they do this by force and of course when they have the power they
take the lions share and distribute the crumbs to the workers.
It stifles creativity and thinking outside the box and as people get more desperate they resort to force to try and make i work but it only gets
Freedom and liberty is the only answer my freind everyone reaps according to their merit! It has accounted for the freest most prosperous nation with
the highest standard of living for the most people in the history of the world from 1789 to 1913 and beyond! Stick with proven methods not failed
PS Did you know the American Pilgrims who came to America in 1620 first tried Communism as their first community in its pure form? long before Marx
ever thought of it. Read of their experiences I think it will really give you some insight.
The Mormons also tried a from of it in the 19th century...
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