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posted on Jun, 4 2012 @ 05:36 PM
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Originally posted by ProfEmeritus



I thought you were going to offer evidence?
reply to post by Indigo5
 

Actually, YOU thought I would offer evidence. I gave all the evidence you need, my word. If you don't wish to believe me, that is your prerogative.


If the white house counts its supporters by counting its mailing list, then that is a fact right? That cannot be an opinion. So if you know this fact, all you need to do is show us where you learned it from. Your word is most certainly not good enough as this is something you should be able to check.




posted on Jun, 4 2012 @ 05:42 PM
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Originally posted by Indigo5
I asked the same question...this was his response..

Originally posted by ProfEmeritus
Actually, YOU thought I would offer evidence. I gave all the evidence you need, my word.




I think he is having trouble figuring out what this thread is about himself.


Originally posted by Indigo5


I baked cookies once according to Michele Obama's recipe and I think it turned me all "socialist"...Does that help with your baking tips?


And we have not impeached her husband yet?
What the hell are we waiting for?????!!!

I hear ya. I followed some of her gardening tips and all I did was attract bugs to my yard.
Grrrrrrrr.

We need to get busy making threads about this stuff.



posted on Jun, 4 2012 @ 05:46 PM
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off-topic post removed to prevent thread-drift


 



posted on Jun, 4 2012 @ 06:19 PM
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reply to post by ProfEmeritus
 


Well how about that..i recall someone being sent to prison for "spamming" emails.



posted on Jun, 4 2012 @ 07:58 PM
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reply to post by habitforming
 

If you can't take the time to read the entire post, why ask questions that are answered in my posts.
To answer your question, here is what the WH replies to my emails to them say:




Every email received as a response to my objections to their actions, have the same response, namely that they appreciate my support.

Now if you cannot understand the word support, then I cannot help you.
Look, it is obvious school is out, and all the kids that didn't try to get jobs are on ATS, trolling those of us that paid taxes all these years. It's rather obvious when the chief troller just joined 5/19/2012.
I guess it's time for my vacation from the trollers.. See the rest of you in September, when the kiddies are back in school.
Peace



posted on Jun, 4 2012 @ 09:08 PM
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Please stop the madness....

ENOUGH!!!!!

Please discuss the topic civilly.....bickering and rudeness have no place here.
It stops NOW!!!!!!!!!

We expect civility and decorum within all topics - Please Review This Link.



posted on Jun, 4 2012 @ 09:17 PM
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Originally posted by ProfEmeritus
reply to post by habitforming
 

If you can't take the time to read the entire post, why ask questions that are answered in my posts.
To answer your question, here is what the WH replies to my emails to them say:




Every email received as a response to my objections to their actions, have the same response, namely that they appreciate my support.

Now if you cannot understand the word support, then I cannot help you.
Look, it is obvious school is out, and all the kids that didn't try to get jobs are on ATS, trolling those of us that paid taxes all these years. It's rather obvious when the chief troller just joined 5/19/2012.
I guess it's time for my vacation from the trollers.. See the rest of you in September, when the kiddies are back in school.
Peace


I did read the entire post and never asked the question you think I did.

I understand the word support.
I understand school is out but that is no reason to reply to me with your fantasy nonsense.
You seem to be responding to what someone else wrote. I never asked any question that you are answering and you just seem rude and angry because people do not thing ATS is your personal trash can.

WHAT POST ARE YOU RESPONDING TO?

What I asked is how you know that the white house COUNTS PEOPLE ON ITS MAILING LIST AS SUPPORTERS.

Do you understand the word "support?" How about the word "count?"
You are making this claim and getting mad at people for questioning it?

It is the entire premise of your thread. It would be nice if you could back it up even a little.
edit on 4-6-2012 by habitforming because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 4 2012 @ 09:23 PM
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Originally posted by SyphonX
Then there is you.

Sitting there.

Complaining about the complainer.

By your own words, while there are kids starving.


Doesn't seem the ability to reason is very high on his list of things to be ashamed of.

But... this is one reason I do NOT sign up for White House related media. I don't subscribe to their newsletters. I don't friend them on Facebook. I don't make accounts on their site to sign petitions, etc., I simply do not trust them.



posted on Jun, 4 2012 @ 09:30 PM
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Then BLOCK them... do not let there e-mail go anywhere but to the spam file or delete it before it even can go to spam YOU CAN set your own controls...



posted on Jun, 4 2012 @ 09:46 PM
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Originally posted by imherejusttoread

Originally posted by SyphonX
Then there is you.

Sitting there.

Complaining about the complainer.

By your own words, while there are kids starving.


Doesn't seem the ability to reason is very high on his list of things to be ashamed of.

But... this is one reason I do NOT sign up for White House related media. I don't subscribe to their newsletters. I don't friend them on Facebook. I don't make accounts on their site to sign petitions, etc., I simply do not trust them.


Yeah I follow the same rules with Viagra but I still get spammed constantly with crap for it. I am sure it is Obama's fault. What forum should my thread about it go in? Political Madness is it?



posted on Jun, 4 2012 @ 09:52 PM
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Originally posted by habitforming
I am sure it is Obama's fault. What forum should my thread about it go in? Political Madness is it?


If you can point to where I specified Obama, I will be more than happy to answer your question. If not, I suggest you kick the cult of personality shtick.



posted on Jun, 5 2012 @ 01:41 AM
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I see many saying "So what! Add them to your ad-blocker or spam list." but this misses the point. Does the Government reside above the law in regards to respecting this manner? We can make formal complaints to a company that "spams" us, even after the expressed desire that they stop and the Government will step in. But what about this?

Prof has a valid argument here. Does the Government not have to follow their own laws and regulations in regards to such emailings? Are they complying with CAN-SPAM regulations that businesses have to comply with?



posted on Jun, 5 2012 @ 02:00 AM
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What law are you speaking of?
Sorry that is all I have to ask.



posted on Jun, 5 2012 @ 02:05 AM
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Originally posted by habitforming
reply to post by ownbestenemy
 


What law are you speaking of?
Sorry that is all I have to ask.


Here you go: CAN-SPAM

Though it expressly states that business are the primary target, one would wonder if a message is coming from the "white house" is it business and/or commercial? Also when one revokes the previous consent, a business must comply with it and remove them from any list.

If the White House is engaging in an email campaign and a user expresses their desire to no longer receive such communique, they should fall under the purview of this law.
edit on 5-6-2012 by ownbestenemy because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 5 2012 @ 02:11 AM
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Originally posted by 12out3r
Why don't you do it the old-fashioned way and reply, "UNSUBSCRIBE".

Come on, THINK McFly, THINK.


lol you read his post?

doh!



posted on Jun, 5 2012 @ 05:23 AM
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I am thinking you should read the law more carefully. It specifically applies to commerce for a reason. I get that you are all mad that the whitehouse can still spam you but I hate that all kinds of crap still spams me. I do not write threads whining about it or suggesting laws that do not have anything to do with it should.



posted on Jun, 5 2012 @ 02:25 PM
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Originally posted by habitforming
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I am thinking you should read the law more carefully. It specifically applies to commerce for a reason. I get that you are all mad that the whitehouse can still spam you but I hate that all kinds of crap still spams me. I do not write threads whining about it or suggesting laws that do not have anything to do with it should.


So than what governs the government? Is a government entity outside the bounds of law? I am not upset about this as you assume, I merely was saying the OP has a valid argument.



posted on Jun, 5 2012 @ 09:59 PM
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Originally posted by ownbestenemy


So than what governs the government? Is a government entity outside the bounds of law? I am not upset about this as you assume, I merely was saying the OP has a valid argument.


No he does not. The commerce law is about commerce. If he wants to stop all spam, he needs to get another law passed. What is valid about arguing that a law that does not cover something...is not covering something.
That is like complaining that a noise ordinance that begins at 11pm does not take care of noise at 7pm. It is not supposed to.



posted on Jun, 5 2012 @ 10:31 PM
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Originally posted by imherejusttoread

Originally posted by habitforming
I am sure it is Obama's fault. What forum should my thread about it go in? Political Madness is it?


If you can point to where I specified Obama, I will be more than happy to answer your question. If not, I suggest you kick the cult of personality shtick.


You did not say Obama, you said this whitehouse.
I am soooo soooo very sorry.



posted on Jun, 6 2012 @ 11:12 AM
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Originally posted by habitforming

Originally posted by ownbestenemy


So than what governs the government? Is a government entity outside the bounds of law? I am not upset about this as you assume, I merely was saying the OP has a valid argument.


No he does not. The commerce law is about commerce. If he wants to stop all spam, he needs to get another law passed. What is valid about arguing that a law that does not cover something...is not covering something.
That is like complaining that a noise ordinance that begins at 11pm does not take care of noise at 7pm. It is not supposed to.


So it isn't a valid argument to wonder why you cannot unsubscribe from a government system, but business are forced to under law and penalty? That doesn't strike you as odd? That government would exclude themselves from the purview of law?



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