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In the book of Job 38:31 it says the constellation of pleiades and orion have spiritual activity of some sort.
Canst thou bind the sweet influences of Pleiades, or loose the bands of Orion?
Job 38:31 38:31 sweet influences of Pleiades. The word translated “sweet influences” (Hebrew maadannah) is used only once in the Bible. Its basic meaning seems to be “cluster.” It is known now that the stars in the constellation Pleiades, anciently known as the “seven sisters” (although the telescope reveals many more stars in this group), are bound together gravitationally. The stars in the bright constellation Orion, on the other hand, are not so bound. Only God can either bind or release the stars, as He is the one who created them and placed them in the heavens.
Originally posted by Imtor
With current technology there is no way one could reach even Andromeda. I've calculated in some old thread it would take more than 1000 years to reach Andromeda by traveling with the speed of light. Note that if the 'faster than light' discovered in CERN turns out true, maybe if it is 10 times less, one could make it for a century.
However, even that sounds too long time, there really must be other ways of travel that if these UFOs are aliens travel with it - hyperspace jump, teleportation? Conventional travel will not get you anywhere.
RevGen, could you respond to this?
Originally posted by Hydroman
If you believe in a young universe, then you also have to believe that when we see a star, that exists at 250 million light years away, to go supernova, it takes less than 6000 years for that change of light to reach us. That means that light travels much, much, much faster than the speed at which Einstein calculated.
Originally posted by RevelationGeneration
I believe in a Young Universe and a 6 day creation. Believing in a 6000 year old or so earth does not make me crazy or brainwashed. After studying for many years I believe in creation science.
Originally posted by Diablos
Originally posted by Imtor
With current technology there is no way one could reach even Andromeda. I've calculated in some old thread it would take more than 1000 years to reach Andromeda by traveling with the speed of light. Note that if the 'faster than light' discovered in CERN turns out true, maybe if it is 10 times less, one could make it for a century.
However, even that sounds too long time, there really must be other ways of travel that if these UFOs are aliens travel with it - hyperspace jump, teleportation? Conventional travel will not get you anywhere.
Interesting. Can I see your calculations? I could have sworn I've had one of these problems in my problem set, and if I remember correctly, travelling at something like 0.8c would get a traveller to the andromeda galaxy within a few years in their reference frame.
Originally posted by PurpleChiten
A lot of speculation in the OP. What if instead of aliens being spiritual, the spiritual is actually alien and they are from other, physical places in the universe? Equally plausible to what you have stated.
Originally posted by Imtor
reply to post by Diablos
I think I used simple formula for velocity, distance and time where the velocity is the speed of light and all units are the same, I think I used all in seconds that converted to minutes, hours, days, weeks, years and the result was more than 1000 years. I threw that completely randomly and hypothetically and that ignores any other factors, just imagine constant velocity, going straight in that direction.
Originally posted by Drunkenparrot
reply to post by Diablos
You need to rethink your relativistic calculations.
If it takes light 2.9 million years to travel the distance, travelling at .77 or .8 the velocity of light isn't going to get you there in 23 years.edit on 1-6-2012 by Drunkenparrot because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Hydroman
If you believe in a young universe, then you also have to believe that when we see a star, that exists at 250 million light years away, to go supernova, it takes less than 6000 years for that change of light to reach us. That means that light travels much, much, much faster than the speed at which Einstein calculated.
Originally posted by RevelationGeneration
I believe in a Young Universe and a 6 day creation. Believing in a 6000 year old or so earth does not make me crazy or brainwashed. After studying for many years I believe in creation science.
Originally posted by Diablos
Originally posted by Drunkenparrot
reply to post by Diablos
You need to rethink your relativistic calculations.
If it takes light 2.9 million years to travel the distance, travelling at .77 or .8 the velocity of light isn't going to get you there in 23 years.edit on 1-6-2012 by Drunkenparrot because: (no reason given)
Patently false and a common misconception among those who have little understanding of relativity. From a Newtonian perspective, that would be correct. However, relativity and the time-dilation and length-contraction equations say otherwise. Are you familiar with the notion that as you travel a significant fraction of the speed of light, time slows down in the perspective of the traveller?
In physics, the Lorentz transformation or Lorentz-Fitzgerald transformation describes how, according to the theory of special relativity, different measurements of space and time by two observers can be converted into the measurements observed in either frame of reference.
Originally posted by poopadoopoulis
But (this is my thought) if aliens are hostile toward us, they would not leave obvious signs of terraforming, they would want us to know as little as possible about them, that might account for all of these sightings that leave nothing tangible behind, they certainly arent trying to make contact, (at least with the general population), and the arguments that i read about them being attracted to nuclear sights just might mean that they are protecting the earth and not us, who knows maybe they want our planet and are waiting for us to kill each other...you know...to save energy.
Originally posted by RevelationGeneration
The Facts of what we know to be true:
1. Aliens are inter-dimensional/Spiritual beings.
2. They do not use interstellar travel.
3. They are malevolent.
4. Their aim is to deceive man-kind.
5. The film industry is helping to prepare us for a "grand deception".
6. "Alien Abductions" stop in the name and authority of Jesus Christ
7. "Alien Abductions" match the abilities of fallen angels as described in the Bible.
8. "Aliens" bring primarily deceptive anti-biblical messages, as is reported by abductees and contactees.
Conclusion:
"extraterrestrials" are intentionally evangelizing people to an alternate spirituality (new age) and are demonic in origin.
If this image doesn’t offend you, I don’t know what will. This is ET’s message in a nutshell, and what God has called my life to be dedicated to fighting. The Son of God is not “crucified afresh” on planet after planet throughout millions of galaxies. The Bible says that Christ died once for all.edit on 29-5-2012 by RevelationGeneration because: (no reason given)