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Secular Researchers' Findings that UFO Activity is Not Extraterrestrial in Origin

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posted on May, 30 2012 @ 10:12 PM
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Oh Praise all, bud, chri,....one day we will all get it ....not toooo far!!!!! Phage?




posted on May, 30 2012 @ 10:13 PM
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Phage as I see all ask on here.........whattaya think!!!!? Im here to shake it up a little!!!! ; )



posted on May, 30 2012 @ 10:22 PM
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Originally posted by Druscilla
reply to post by RevelationGeneration
 


I could really care less WHAT ufos/aliens are.






However, here I am, reading and commenting on the "aliens and ufo's" forum!!!!


If this is your way to look "cool".......it's not working

edit on 30-5-2012 by GFDGFS because: I can!!



posted on May, 30 2012 @ 10:47 PM
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I have another hypothesis. 100% materialist.

The physics of exotic ET craft induce hallucinatory effects in the brains and bodies of humans exposed to them, leading humans to perceive seemingly paranormal effects.

It is expected that strong distortions of gravitational metric (as presumably any 'warp drive' equipped craft would have) could cause a wide array of profound physical effects, because the underlying metric enters into equations of motion all of physics.

It's quite feasible to believe that such things could cause shifts in energy levels in molecules resulting in different chemical reactions, reaction rates, or neural spike depolarizations. Directly induced currents in the brain from oscillating magnetic fields are also a likely possibility, and these have already been shown in earth-bound experiments to induce profound psychological phenomena.

Effectively, temporarily induced schizophrenia-like symptoms from warp drive is far from impossible from physical effects.

Since us Earthlings currently possess no feasible means of generating strong space-time warpings, we have no direct experience with the resultant effects.

For example, to somebody in the Dark Ages, an electrocution might appear to be a fatal demonic attack. They would have experienced no such effect in their lives and if they saw it they could be profoundly frightened and completely mistaken about the cause.

Today, we know it is nothing but burns and induced fibrillation of the electrical system controlling the beating of the heart.

A similar principle might apply with ET.

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posted on May, 30 2012 @ 10:57 PM
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what if RevelationGeneration is a demonic alien trying to decieve us!?!!!!!11?



posted on May, 30 2012 @ 11:15 PM
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Who says this is 'what we know'? I agree with the 5 dimensional alien thing because of the way MIB III explained it. While what the industry tells us may not be true, I believe its the higher end giving us, the lower half, a heads up on the truth. This level of truth cannot be let loose to the public because A. our greed matches theirs and we will do what it takes to get ahold or take it from the top half of the control pyramid. & B. they have had control so far, and are slowly but meticulously preparing us to accept where they are putting Mankind as a whole. (MIB theory) I believe their plan is made to exeed any and all generational gaps, and has been worked by the best and brightest humans we have ever had. Not to mention, if we do indeed have experimented with time/dimentional travel and successfully came back with results, we have gotten what we need and shouldnt be foiled by our own human folly. My evidence to this is circumstantial, they way the thinktank wants it, but that would actually make the past generation truly the greastest generation ever. If untrue, why the world wars at all? WWI - Discovery WWII - Control of mankind WWIII - unessisary because our world vs the only other beings that we have found to exist, isnt doesnt constitute a world war/civil war.



posted on May, 30 2012 @ 11:21 PM
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Originally posted by RevelationGeneration
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There is far more than 600, I don't know where you got that figure from, the real number of fallen angels is said to be in the millions.

It really doesn't matter. The story came from much older myths and tales, and deep down inside, you know it did. believing in a world of Angels and Demons is not a world I would live in. I grew up, you see, and became an adult, quite a long time ago. And, I throughly researched the origins of the Christian religion, something you need to do.



posted on May, 30 2012 @ 11:35 PM
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Well that sounds about right. I don't see why that would mean it wouldn't have to be physical though. (or perhaps in space on some higher frequency plane or other) I mean whoever built the Face on Mars likely did so with physical bodies. And I've actually heard some accounts where some of the ET's speak of civilizations of angels (like from Arcturus I think it was) out in space.

There needn't be a dichotomy between angels&demons and ETs once you realize that there is no clear cut distinction between natural and supernatural. (matter doesn't exist, it's all nested "programs" of quantum information) So it could be a both and, but we are dichotomizing because we view it in this way.



posted on May, 30 2012 @ 11:43 PM
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Yes the Universe was created with only humans on this planet, that is the plain TRUTH.

No, that is YOUR twisted version of Truth, RV. Your "Truth" is my lies.
What you say does not exist is right before your eyes, and you are too blinded by your massive ego to even see it, friend.

Drake equation

The Bible UFO Connection

UFOs in the Bible

The Wow! Signal

Battle of Los Angeles

The Suppressed History of Planet Earth

The 1952 Tremonton, Utah UFO Fleet

From our own Sleeper (Lou Baldin)
Are extraterrestrials real? As real as the nose on your face

Valiant Thor from the Planet Venus

Nothing out there? Try LOOKING! We are one small planet in orbit about a medium grade Star at the edge of a giant Galaxy, in a vast Universe. To say we are alone is to reside in a very small box of knowledge, and a great fear of looking out of it.



posted on May, 30 2012 @ 11:43 PM
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The Facts of what we know to be true:
1. Aliens are inter-dimensional/Spiritual beings.
2. They do not use interstellar travel.
3. They are malevolent.
4. Their aim is to deceive man-kind.
5. The film industry is helping to prepare us for a "grand deception".
6. "Alien Abductions" stop in the name and authority of Jesus Christ
7. "Alien Abductions" match the abilities of fallen angels as described in the Bible.
8. "Aliens" bring primarily deceptive anti-biblical messages, as is reported by abductees and contactees.

Conclusion: "extraterrestrials" are intentionally evangelizing people to an alternate spirituality (new age) and are demonic in origin.


What we know:
1. This article is BS
2. The source is biased
3. The OP is a nutjob

Conclusion:
It's probably not demons.



posted on May, 30 2012 @ 11:52 PM
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Because they have an anti-christian agenda.

I have never seen, or heard anything anti anything, but Nuclear War and the Destruction of this planet.


Because they show all the signs of being straight from the pit.

Please show examples, that sounds made up, or from someone who just does not know anything.


Because abduction experiences have been successfully stopped when the person has called on the name of our Lord.

Already been proven not to work. I actually hope you get abducted, and have a chance to try that out.


The evidence is strong... I could list a bunch of reasons as to why they are demonic.

Post your "evidence." I say the only evidence you can come up with is from Christian websites. Prove me wrong, if you can.


Inter dimensional is basically the same as spiritual.

Wrong again! I am Spiritual, but live in the same dimension as you do, just on a higher vibration frequency wave.


And no I don't just call anything I don't know a "demon" that is a very dogmatic and arrogant view.

Could have fooled me! I would bet you have said that word severy hundred times in here, and probably more.


Despite all the evidence people out of stubbornness and hatred for the truth will not accept it.

You certainly have that right. In the face of mountains of evidence, you are still in denial. And yes, it is your stubbornness and hatred for the truth that will be your downfall.



posted on May, 30 2012 @ 11:57 PM
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It is a historical fact that Jesus of Nazereth lived...

Here is your chance to prove it, RV. Just post your "historical facts" for us to see. some photos would be nice also. You did now Nazareth did not exist in his time, right?



posted on May, 31 2012 @ 12:03 AM
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Originally posted by RevelationGeneration
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Autowrench has been found to be a proven liar on these boards making his testimony worthless. He's even posted some junk about christianity being a NSA psyop in the past, I would not take his claims seriously. He's also admitted to being influenced by "spirits".

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So now you resort to personal insults and name calling. Sounds just like several others of your kind recently banned from ATS. I'll bet you will be the next to go, if you keep it up. Read your T&C.



posted on May, 31 2012 @ 12:07 AM
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Seriously, dude?

Have you seen the OP's other posts?

Don't waste your time. He'll call his own shadow a demon (LITERALLY, NOT EVEN A JOKE) and then tell you to call his own shadow a demon would be arrogant and dogmatic.

Then he doesn't get why he call him arrogant and dogmatic.



posted on May, 31 2012 @ 12:08 AM
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Also, I'm fairly sure the OPer is well-known as the least credible source of information on ATS.

Sometimes you wonder how much lead people must eat.



posted on May, 31 2012 @ 12:25 AM
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How so? The OP claims that an imaginary problem (alien abduction) can be corrected by an imaginary cure (Jesus). If Jesus is not an imaginary cure then we have real problems he could fix, such as the child rapists in Jesus' corporate headquarters.


But seriously, you paint with a wide brush. You should be more specific, about the crimes against humanity that the CATHOLIC CHURCH has always gotten away with since it's very inception. This is nothing new. You're even getting paint on me and I have nothing to do with the Catholic church.



posted on May, 31 2012 @ 12:52 AM
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Originally posted by rickymouse
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I'm agreeing with you that the Big Bang theory isn't proven real. Just because a few people say something happened doesn't mean it did. It's just an educated guess, there is no way to prove the Big Bang theory. It's just about as amusing as the TV show.


Dude! I LOVE the TV show!!!! BAZINGA!!



posted on May, 31 2012 @ 01:01 AM
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A lot of speculation in the OP. What if instead of aliens being spiritual, the spiritual is actually alien and they are from other, physical places in the universe? Equally plausible to what you have stated.



posted on May, 31 2012 @ 01:09 AM
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Originally posted by RevelationGeneration
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You may not care, others do. I think by replying to my topic you do care but thats beside the point.

Nothing what I have brought here is speculation, but rather 100% fact.
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You have that backwards. It's 100% speculation and no fact at all from what you've posted.



posted on May, 31 2012 @ 01:11 AM
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Originally posted by RevelationGeneration


That is the height of all ignorance right there.
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oh wow, an image of Larry The Cable Guy just popped into my head!!! ....right there!




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