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Originally posted by disgustingfatbody
reply to post by NoGod
I think there may be something the Masons know that the rest of us don't know.
I'm curious, but I'm okay with that.
Originally posted by NoGod
reply to post by network dude
I read a members previous post that stated "masons" do not use astrology,I have read many books that conterdict that statement The hyram key and the solomon key both by robert loomas,Dark secrets of nasas data mission By Richard hogeland the list goes on I know washington was big into the astrology was that a masonic thing or a personal intrest of his he worked into his masonary
.And one more question I have is why do masons believe in a higer power.All masons I know believe in a higher power my question is why is that imporant?I belive in no god due to lack of evdiance or proof why would the best and brightest belive in something they can not prove?Just seems worth asking thanks for your time ~Eric
Originally posted by AugustusMasonicus
Originally posted by EnigmaticDill
Right only to you, the serpent of old is a lot older than we are.
I am sorry that I am not a feeble-minded supersitionist and do not believe in the silly Christian Devil that you feel everyone needs to believe in to have a more well rounded religious outlook.
You dont see the devil is why, masons will deny deny, until someone higher up then them says jump, and you say how high?
Give me an example of someone 'higher-up' then me.
Show me where I made generalized about anything.
No, anyone who has says, 'Masons are like Jews, hell I know they are', is a bigot.
Originally posted by bowtomonkey
You are too belligerent to see how obviously wrong you are.
Originally posted by HIWATT
Originally posted by network dude
Originally posted by HIWATT
Masonry has it's roots in the Ancient Mysteries, which is OCCULT by it's very nature. Why do you think they will never answer any real questions to that end? BECAUSE THEY ARE EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN TO DO SO!
bull crap. It's because most people don't ask real questions. We give you answers but we get the old, "you're not high enough on the ladder to know the truth" . So there is no way we could answer your questions to your satisfaction.
I wonder if you and the other antagonizers here actually understand that. You come here and put us in a catch 22, and then berate us for no being able to get out of it. It's a logical fail every time.
It's not my problem if you're not willing to speak to the truths of your organization, if even you're able to.
That's exactly the point though. You CAN'T speak about it even if you did know because you took an oath not to. Don't lie about that.
You feel berated because you feel like you're giving answers, but you are not. Masonry is a hierarchy. "Knowledge" is imparted incrementally, this is what you call "degrees"
So YES, the things people are really curious about are the things you are expressly forbidden to discuss having reached the upper echelon of that hierarchy.
What exactly is so difficult to understand there I have no idea.
Of course we can't have people thinking logically and clearly about the matter so you have all manner of disruption and misdirection being perpetrated here (and elsewhere) by folks who wish to see their cult remain a "charity" in the eyes of the layman.
when the truth is anything but.
Originally posted by bowtomonkey
So slander away and keep making a pathetic hypocrite of yourself. You will only throw FM into further disrepute, and God knows you have a lot of work to do, if you think you will clear FM's tarnished reputation with wrongly directed abuse.
Originally posted by W3RLIED2
reply to post by bowtomonkey
I'm starting to enjoy our reputation quite a bit. Anything to keep people like you out of my fraternity is something I consider a good thing.
It's exceedingly amusing that you accuse another of being a biggot when all he did was use your own words... I mean, it doesn't get more obvious then that.
Originally posted by bowtomonkey
Originally posted by W3RLIED2
reply to post by bowtomonkey
I'm starting to enjoy our reputation quite a bit. Anything to keep people like you out of my fraternity is something I consider a good thing.
It's exceedingly amusing that you accuse another of being a biggot when all he did was use your own words... I mean, it doesn't get more obvious then that.
You keep intelligent people out and keep a fools (sheep) in.
I can imagine the warm fuzzy feeling FM gives you. You are there for your brothers despite how wrong they are.
This is what you call a good reputation, but you are in a secret organisation that you are unlikely to ever understand to all non-members you look like a bunch of fools.
Well... not wanting to be a bigot like yourselves, I will add the caveat I'm unwilling to generalize and just going by what I see in this thread.
Troll away, troll FM's
It's what you do for the brotherhood.
Keep making false accusations, as it all you can do
Originally posted by network dude
reply to post by HIWATT
NO, you are not listening. The only thing I cannot tell you is our passwords and grips. The stuff that is all over the internet.
Here I will try this another way.
WHAT DO YOU WANT TO KNOW?
Now, if you have legitimate questions, I can answer them, I do realize that you will say I am not high enough on the food chain to answer your questions, but I am offering to give you honest real world answers to anything else you would like to know about freemasonry. You are free to take any answer I give you and check it with a random mason on the street to see if I lied to you.
But be warned, there is a very good chance that the answers I give will not be as fantastic as you hope they would be.
Originally posted by KSigMason
reply to post by bowtomonkey
Thank you for prejudicial, bigoted, and fascist answer.
Originally posted by bowtomonkey
reply to post by W3RLIED2
More people should be aware that Freemasons are not to be trusted. there should be laws preventing FM's from hold high positions. Jews too... Imagine that. The world would be a much more fair place.