You Westerners Are Deluded

reply to post by AnotherHumanBeing


I'm sure he did that because certain people find it real easy to point out the faults in others just so their own faults don't become apparent.

Originally posted by TheMatrixusesYou
reply to post by Rosha

 

Dude, you need to make one more post real quick. It makes me uncomfortable to see you have The Mark of The Beast last post.

edit on 8-5-2012 by TheMatrixusesYou because: (no reason given)

lol its dudette and I supose..to them I am...mwuwuwahahaha

ty for thinking of me lol

Ro

reply to post by CrimsonKapital


This is the part where i say...

Ask me if i care.

The West may suffer more in the coming collapse, but it will certainly be felt worldwide. Two reasons:
1) The East owns a whole lot of Western debt that will be worthless, and 2) The West is a large consumer of Eastern produced goods.

Yes, these statements are overly broad, but yet still true.

reply to post by CrimsonKapital


Who says it's just the westerners? We aren't the only ones posting about this stuff...

Seriously. And next time you guys need help fighting off the bullies next door, don't bother stoping by our place. If that's how you feel, you can obviously guard your own house.

I have no idea re the NWO, it might be real, it might be BS, I doubt I'll ever know.

The reason the UK is going to the floor is purely because we have had consecutive useless governments in charge with the only differences between their way of running the country being whose name is on the door. We have watched our lovely government help themselves to the public's cash like it was in the MP's bank account which sadly is where most of it went.

I've watched the last 5 or so governments piss away our country by joining the EU and letting France and Germany control our economy and membership, I've watched countless billions being pumped into the floundering EU and countries who should never haver been touched with a barge pole allowed to enter the EU.

Between that and our INSANE open door policy and STUPID instant entry into our benefit and health system we have seen the UK drop steadily into a stagnant mess. We don't know who is in the country, we don't know where they are and yet we give them cash.

No wonder people flock here, and more insane that we have to beg permission to deport criminals, terrorist and sexual predators and are often refused this based upon crazy EU decisions.

We are a joke, perhaps we need the NWO....Can they be worse?

We are not deluded-at least not the majority of us.
What has happened to the U.S. is that lazy people found they can vote themselves a paycheck without working.
Unions have cost us a labor force that is not competitive with the rest of the world.
Corporations have been relocated because we have the highest corporate tax in the world to pay for those people the unions have put out of work.
Corporations and banks have manipulated the system through buying our legislators allowing them to steal from their own country.
It is not hard to fix the problems. It is hard to find legislators who won't be corrupted when elected.

The East deserves to be ahead of us. As a people they are far more respectful, morally sound, and economically efficient than any number of given western counterparts - not to mention they lack the gigantic egos that us westerners have.

Originally posted by CrimsonKapital
You read the title correctly, I'm so sick of hearing people from the West stating that the decline and fall of America/Europe has been engineered by pro-globalist agents in order to usher in a one world order.
Well let me give you a sad reality check, no it isn't whilst your countries might be going downhill it doesn't mean the world is ending, the East is a rising power and those institutions which once operated in the West are now moving to the East.
You all seem to think the collapse of the West would destroy the world, and that ALL nations including China would collapse. What a load of bulls**t.
The West had its time as the dominant world power and now it is struggling to come to terms that its reign is over, so as it struggles it is making up excuses such as "its been engineered by the nwo".
The East is rising..

We're still in charge so you're still gonna have to kiss our ass.

A one-way ticket to China would do wonders for your health, yes?

China is a paper dragoon, already collapsing from its own weight.

Big forces that shape our world, beyond the control of anyone, including those who might be the PTB, are about to reshape our world, and the West will be better for it.

That's just the way it is.

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I have one word for you genius. WAR. Kinda changes things a bit doesn't it. Seems like Westerners aren't the only "deluded" ones.

where will the corporations go once the east starts asking for respectable wages? or will they let themselves remain slaves working for $2 a day?

The OP is from Australia. That's about as western as the "east" gets. I think many others in this thread have already stated: fine. Take care of your own security. Police your own terrorists. Save your own arses. PLEASE because we're tired of doing the heavy lifting.

We're not deluded, we tired of being the only adult in the room. Rest of the world lives in various degrees of savagery. Evolve, clowns.

learn to install a proper toilet, eat with something other than your fingers, stop being religious fanatics and killing each other because they had the wrong haircut, then you can rejoin the human race.

Well if Obama gets in again, I have no doubt we'll fall. Hell, even if we get a strong president in it'll be a slippery slope back to the top. Nobody wants to do any hard work it seems. But then again when your at the top for so long everyone gets lazy and used to the comfort and luxuries they have.

Originally posted by CrimsonKapital
That is why BRICS is creating their OWN financial body, that way the white-establishment will not be able to screw them like they have with the West.

You're "White Establishment" Sound's alot like an NWO to me. Just sayin

Also If the U.S and China went to war who do you think we (Australia) would side with? I doubt we'd sit on the fence and I think we'd actually end up joining with the "Westerners" (we are apart of the British colony after all). Your argument is pretty flawed and you don't seem to see things on a world scale. Also could you find me an aboriginal that claims he is asian, I'd love to hear that?

Originally posted by tangonine
The OP is from Australia. That's about as western as the "east" gets. I think many others in this thread have already stated: fine. Take care of your own security. Police your own terrorists. Save your own arses. PLEASE because we're tired of doing the heavy lifting.

We're not deluded, we tired of being the only adult in the room. Rest of the world lives in various degrees of savagery. Evolve, clowns.

learn to install a proper toilet, eat with something other than your fingers, stop being religious fanatics and killing each other because they had the wrong haircut, then you can rejoin the human race.

You sir are a complete moron, Some would argue the U.S are the savages and the religious fanatics. Actually I don't think religion is a huge issue in Australia at all. You sound more like a defensive dog protecting its territory more than a "human"

fall of the west and rise of the east? where did u get that? these political heads and businessmen are just playing into the corporate game the nwo also aka babylon have created for these two sad worlds also i dont think the west is even close to falling more like the east if u ask me i dont see how its any different tho just 1 big business forcefeeding us their system whether we like it or not

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A-friggin-men!!!!!

The West, with it's bank run governments, it's absurd capitalism, and it's psychotic evangelicalism, is responsible for it's own death. The world will NOT miss it ... esp America.

Originally posted by TheMatrixusesYou
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Alright. Someone has to start calling BS on this type of argument.

You can't argue that eye for an eye bit, because the circumstances are different. You argue that entire countries take actions that everyone within that country is informed about. America is the most propagandized nation on earth. We've been hoodwinked into thinking all kinds of things so the big wigs could get done whatever they wanted. There are criminal elements all around that exploit both the Americans for their approval and other counties' citizens for the big wig's personal gain.

Stop saying things like America's chickens are coming home to roost. We didn't vote on exploitation, nor did we know it was going on. The idea seems so crazy that even now it seems hard to grasp. 99 percent of the people on earth are good people. They want to live well and they want to do right by their neighbors and families.

Your anger at an entire nation needs to be checked and to do that takes a little more courage than the average person normally uses. Use your brain to decide what's right and wrong and have the courage to believe something that might be against the grain.

That's how you improve the world.

I completely agree with what you say here, personally i also see the fact that those of us in the western world understand that politics is a lie, we have been lied too for no reason other than it created a situation in which one group of people gets everything it wants. It made it painfully obvious that governments are only interested in themselves, and terms like "Peoples Party" make me realise there are still a billion deluded uber peons in need of a reality check.

reply to post by CrimsonKapital


Yeah, because the US hasn't been following the roadmap laid out by PNAC's report, Rebuilding America's Defenses.

The problem with your point of view is that you have no context. If you're European, you've never really known anything but monarchical rule and various forms of socialism. Civil rights and liberties have never been part of your culture, and for the most part you (Europeans) have always lived in some sort of police state. In America, our culture is based on the greatest documents ever created, The Constitution and The Bill of Rights, and the capitalistic ideal.

For the first time in American history, the founding documents of our nation and the rights they give us are in real danger of being taken from us. Unfortunately, one of the side-effects of capitalism and personal freedom is the emergence of corporatism and the military-industrial complex. Like a virus, it has permeated every level of government, both domestically and abroad. It's not a conspiracy theory. It's a conspiracy.

Eh... you're right and wrong.

True, the East is rising, but I don't think that excludes the globalist agenda and the plans for a new world order. How do you know the rise and fall of the East and West aren't planned from the get-go in order to get certain events spiraling, the snowball gets bigger, and the banks that the globalists control get money from the slide-a-hand tricks?

If there is a global elite, they're going to be seven steps ahead, and know how to trigger any events needed in order to get the money and power they desire, even if it means the fall of the West.

Oh, by the way... shut the f*** up about the West. If you aren't from America or have never been here, you don't know a damn thing about us except misguided rumors and maybe a few individuals from ATS or Facebook. All nations have their ignorant idiots, and the West, namely America, still has some sort of pride... those of us few strong Americans who still exist, anyway. Don't hate us for that.

I love my country, not my government.