reply to post by DJW001
I have seen this simple calculation done by other apollo readers and so each person gets a slightly different final answer but i will do this for you
myself DJW001. I am good with numbers so this will probably be accurate. But i am very tired so you need to check my work yourself. I will tell
you what I do step by step. I do not use a calculator mostly so please check. Then you can do it for the other real time solutions; AGS and PNGS as
I have done.
I will calculate the distance from the real time MSFN solution published in the Apollo 11 Mission Report to the Eagle landing site at Tranquility
Base(00 41' 15" north and 23 26' 00"). I will use punctuation, grammar and spelling checker so it will hopefully be good. And my sister is helping
me with the grammar and writing too. This will make clear to you the contradiction that proves apollo phony.
Go to page 5-15 of this Apollo 11 mission Report here
The table there 5-IV is a table of landing site coordinates including the real time landing site solutions I wrote about in the other posts AGS PNGS
and MSFN. Powered Flight Processor is the same as MSFN and we will use that one for my example.
This is a real time solution and means that when the space ship lands because it is being tracked they know that it landed right away at 0.631 north
and 23.47 east. We want to convert this to degrees/minutes/seconds form and that is easy.
0.631 X 60 = 37.86 minutes = 37 + .86 X 60 = 00 37' 52" north.
I will do the same with east and get 23 0.47 X 60 = 23 28.2'= 23 28' 0.2 x 60 = 23 28' 12" east.
When the Eagle landed the MSFN found the Eagle to be at 00 37' 52 north and 23 28' 12" east.
This was real time and Houston would know this almost right away. There is a correction that must be made however before I go on to tell you more.
Look there at the table 5-IV footnote (a) and you can see to convert these coordinates from trajectory coordinates that MSFN tracked you must add 2'
25" north to the north coordinate and subtract 4' 17" from the east number to find the coordinates on the MAP used for these things like the one
Michael Collins had.
Because of this correction the MSFN real time solution was 00 37' 52" + 2' 25" = 00 40' 17" north and 23 28' 12" - 4' 17" = 23 23' 55" east.
I have my real time solution and H. David Reed should have been given these numbers in the morning 07/21/1969 when he came to work. These were the
best real time numbers available for identifying the Eagle landing site because MSFN is usually considered the most accurate and best solution. I
will show you it is good in the pretend story of Apollo. Just a little under a mile from Tranquility.
Tranquility base is 00 41' 15" north and 23 26' 00" east. these numbers were discovered 08/01/1969 after film and flight and 16mm data was studied
and the Lick Observatory scientists hit the LRRR for sure for the first time.
For the north difference Tranquility actual minus MSFN as reported in the mission report is 00 41' 15" - 00 40' 17" = 58 seconds.
For the east 23 26' 00" - 23 23' 55" = 2 minutes and 5 seconds 2' 05".
To get the distance between Tranquility and the real time MSFN solution for the landing site you just do pythagoras and so that is ( (58) x (58) ) +
( (2' 05") x (2' 05")) and then take the square root of that sum.
Since now it is going to be easier to work in simple degrees with decimals I will go to that and 58 seconds equals, 58/60= .9667 minutes equals 0.0161
degrees. for the 2' 05". 05/60= .0833
2.0833/60 = 0.0347 degrees.
Now the Tranquility Base MSFN landing site real time solution difference is easy for me to calculate
0.0161 squared plus 0.0347 squared and take the square root of that sum and I got 0.000259 + 0.001204= 0.00146(rounding to show simpler figure) and I
want the square root of that. I found 0.0382 degrees.
The moon's circumference at its equator is 6783. 360 degrees in that circumference and so I found at the moon's equator each degree is 18.84 miles.
MSFN real time Eagle landing site solution and Tranquility Base as they found it on 08/01/1969 are 0.0382 degrees apart which equals 0.72 miles.
According to H. David Reed the MSFN solution and the Tranquility base solution actual were 4.7 miles apart. I found .72 miles apart. This is a very
big difference when you consider the width of the ruby red laser that hit the LRRR was 2 miles. If the Lick Observatory scientists and the McDonald
Observatory scientists were given the MSFN coordinates as reported in the mission report the LRRR would have been hit. But Reed says the MSFN
solution he was given was at least 4.7 miles from Tranquility and out of the laser's reach.
The Apollo Mission Report lied lied lied and published a MSFN solution 6.5 times closer to Tranquility Base than the solution given to H. David Reed
that was supposed to be the same solution. Because these numbers are different this proves beyond any possible doubt in the entire world that Apollo
Thanks to Charlie and my sister for checking my work and my sister for helping me so much with the spelling and grammar.
You can check my numbers DWJ001. I am so tired and do not use a calculator so I can stay in practice with my figures. You should do this with the
AGS PNGS AOT and radar solutions too.
edit on 29-4-2012 by decisively because: link not working and am trying to fix it