Originally posted by bo12au
Op what are your views beliefs on waco
When the event occurred I was barely starting school and it didn't occur in my country so I can't say I investigated it too much at the time!
During high school though, when I was about 15 one of the ex-members of Koresh's group gave a talk for about an hour to my class. From my memory of
the occasion he had left Koresh's group before any of the Waco thing broke out but lost heaps of his friends there. He talked about how he was led
into this offshoot movement by David who was very charismatic, persuasive, spoke with authority and seemingly knew his bible well. Other than those
details I can remember nothing really comes to mind. The guy ended up leaving Koresh's group so he must have had some problems with him but I can't
Other than that the only thing I know about Waco is from 2 main places that I have read on it. One was an article or testimony (something of that
nature) to do with a guy involved with the siege saying that he witnessed other agents shoot at the government guys around the windows. Also him
mentioning some comments from a few guys involved in the siege about how they were going to get them and the kind of hatred expressed towards them. I
will have to try and dig up where I found this information from about 3 years ago. The other source is from the SDA pastor Bill Hughes who wrote about
it in his book.
I don't agree with the theology of Koresh or the need to have your own offshoot group and compound.
My personal opinion is that, anyone who opposes the papacy and keeps the seventh-day Sabbath can expect this kind of treatment against them from their
governments during the tribulation period. If you look at websites talking about SDAs one of their favorite words to brand them is a 'cult' or 'sect'
Lets have a little look at the training of the President in charge at the time Bill Clinton:
- Georgetown University (main hot bed of Jesuit control in America)
- Rhodes Scholarship to Oxford University (read 'the Anglo-America Establishment' to find out what that means)
- Yale University (decent indicators he was a member of the Yale only Skull and Bones Club)
- The Bilderberg Group
- Trilateral Commission
- Council on Foreign Relations (American Illuminati)
I think it is fair to say that with his background it is screaming out that he was taking orders from the Jesuits and Illuminati. Or if he was a
Jesuit himself which is what Bill Hughes seems to suggest then his orders against them would just be an expression of his own hatred towards them.
Waco was a taste, and I expect this for the future trouble ahead:
Those who honor the Bible Sabbath will be denounced as enemies of law and order, as breaking down the moral restraints of society, causing anarchy
and corruption, and calling down the judgments of God upon the earth. Their conscientious scruples will be pronounced obstinacy, stubbornness, and
contempt of authority. They will be accused of disaffection toward the government.—The Great Controversy, 592 (1911)
All who in that evil day would fearlessly serve God according to the dictates of conscience, will need courage, firmness, and a knowledge of God
and His Word, for those who are true to God will be persecuted, their motives will be impugned, their best efforts misinterpreted, and their names
cast out as evil.—The Acts of the Apostles, 431, 432 (1911).
When the protection of human laws shall be withdrawn from those who honor the law of God, there will be, in different lands, a simultaneous
movement for their destruction. As the time appointed in the decree draws near, the people will conspire to root out the hated sect. It will be
determined to strike in one night a decisive blow, which shall utterly silence the voice of dissent and reproof.
The people of God--some in prison cells, some hidden in solitary retreats in the forests and the mountains--still plead for divine protection, while
in every quarter companies of armed men, urged on by hosts of evil angels, are preparing for the work of death. It is now, in the hour of utmost
extremity, that the God of Israel will interpose for the deliverance of His chosen. Source: The
Great Controversy - Chapter 40 'God's People Delivered' p 635
When the Government is willing to shot their own guys just to try to blame in on a group to make out that the others started it then you know what to
expect from the media working with the government. When they use CS gas which is banned even in use for war against civilian women and children you
know what kind of hatred and spirit leads them.
The dragon made war with the women, they that keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus.
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