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posted on Apr, 10 2012 @ 05:10 PM
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Cold War II about to begin in 5...4...3..2..1.

Seriously though, Russia's only flexing it's muscle to protect natural resources and it's weapons partner, Iran. Putin is wanting a fight....

I am curious though what Chechen rebels think of Russia's defense of Iran.

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Found an old article about Iran's thoughts on Russia/Chechen war:




Russia and Iran are allies in many spheres, and both have a close relationship with Armenia. Meanwhile, Azerbaijan and Georgia look to Nato for guarantees of their security and have a close relationship with Russia's historic rival, Turkey.

These political ties have influenced the countries' responses to the conflict in Chechnya. Despite the fact that the Chechens are Muslims, Iran has refrained from criticising Russia's military campaign in the North Caucasus.


news.bbc.co.uk...

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posted on Apr, 10 2012 @ 05:13 PM
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Russia would destroy Israel, they have the most sophisticated air defense systems. Israel needs US help to defend themselves.



posted on Apr, 10 2012 @ 05:17 PM
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Get out of Iran, Israel doesn't like us anyways... Instead of working on keeping a nuke out of Irans hands, work on our defense strength even more, so a nuclear bomb couldn't get near America anyways. If Iran ignites the east with a nuclear bomb, you can only blame them.



posted on Apr, 10 2012 @ 05:21 PM
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Originally posted by Juggernog
Not likely, you should get some facts before making this kind of a comment.

World Military Rankings

Israel Russia Comparison


Originally posted by Spooky1
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LOL!

Ignorance upon ignorance.

Israel would wipe the floor with Russia.

It wouldn't even be funny.

The only thing Israel would have to fear from Russia is a nuclear attack. But Russia isn't interested in self-destruction. They're not that stupid.


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Those useless links were pretty entertaining.

Israel would completely destroy Russia in any battle.

As I said the only thing Israel could fear from Russia is nuclear attack, and that's not happening.



posted on Apr, 10 2012 @ 05:26 PM
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posted on Apr, 10 2012 @ 05:29 PM
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By summer? This is heating up fast



posted on Apr, 10 2012 @ 05:30 PM
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Originally posted by jiggerj

Originally posted by Spooky1
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LOL!

Ignorance upon ignorance.

Israel would wipe the floor with Russia.

It wouldn't even be funny.

The only thing Israel would have to fear from Russia is a nuclear attack. But Russia isn't interested in self-destruction. They're not that stupid.


But those Allah lovin' idiots WOULD use nuclear weapons.


Absolutely, and that is why utterly destroying Iran's capability and even desire to continue to develop nuclear weapons is perfectly natural and appropriate.



posted on Apr, 10 2012 @ 05:32 PM
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It is people like you Iran wants to defend against and has a perfect natural right for nuclear weapons. It is your blatant racism and hatred for them that they desire protection.



posted on Apr, 10 2012 @ 05:35 PM
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Lol, lots of ignorant Jew-haters on this site...


Here come the paid trolls lol. I could easily say your a muslim hater, which is worse than a jew hater lol.

Do not try to side track the issue. Russia has the most sophisticated military in the middle east and asian continent.



posted on Apr, 10 2012 @ 05:37 PM
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posted on Apr, 10 2012 @ 05:38 PM
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Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
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Russia would destroy Israel, they have the most sophisticated air defense systems. Israel needs US help to defend themselves.


Really, dhimmi?

What in the hell would Russia's air defense have to do with anything?

Has anyone in this thread suggested Israel is going to launch air strikes against the Russians? LOL

The Russian's suffered losses against GEORGIA. Any Israeli municipal police force could invade Georgia.

ISRAEL WOULD UTTERLY ANNIHILATE RUSSIA IN ANY BATTLE

Russia against Israel would be like the Bad News Bears vs. the Yankees.
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posted on Apr, 10 2012 @ 05:41 PM
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posted on Apr, 10 2012 @ 05:41 PM
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Dude this has nothing to do with borders and countries - this has everything to do with business and Russia is trying to protect it's assets, plain and simple.

We sit here and only read what's on the surface but there is a another layer to the so called truth out there. If you analyse what is going on and use Occam's Razor here you soon start to see the most viable picture, one that is plausible in this day and age.

A world war involves a mass of resources (has done from what I can gather looking back at history) so this is no different - you have powerful people playing a game of chess and we are getting caught in the middle.

It's not the war that bothers me, it's the aftermath...



posted on Apr, 10 2012 @ 05:41 PM
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Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
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It is people like you Iran wants to defend against and has a perfect natural right for nuclear weapons. It is your blatant racism and hatred for them that they desire protection.


Racism? Against Persians?

Try again, dhimmi troll.



posted on Apr, 10 2012 @ 05:45 PM
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Originally posted by Spooky1

Originally posted by Juggernog
Not likely, you should get some facts before making this kind of a comment.

World Military Rankings

Israel Russia Comparison


Originally posted by Spooky1
reply to post by Evanzsayz
 


LOL!

Ignorance upon ignorance.

Israel would wipe the floor with Russia.

It wouldn't even be funny.

The only thing Israel would have to fear from Russia is a nuclear attack. But Russia isn't interested in self-destruction. They're not that stupid.


edit on 10-4-2012 by Juggernog because: (no reason given)


Those useless links were pretty entertaining.

Israel would completely destroy Russia in any battle.

As I said the only thing Israel could fear from Russia is nuclear attack, and that's not happening.




Lmao, you dont have a clue do you? Israel could barely hold up against Hamas during cast lead much less stand up against an organized military like the Russian military.
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posted on Apr, 10 2012 @ 05:45 PM
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Really, dhimmi?


Classic troll response




What in the hell would Russia's air defense have to do with anything?


Air defense as everything to do with nuclear attack, that is why there are START treaties and Russia has s-400s and s-300vms around moscow




Has anyone in this thread suggested Israel is going to launch air strikes against the Russians? LOL


You did
www.abovetopsecret.com...

How else would israel 'wipe the floor' as you put it? They are begging for aerial refeuling tankers and bunker busters from the USA and you are saying that they would wipe the floor? Lmao. Take your meds soon.




The Russian's suffered losses against GEORGIA. Any Israeli municipal police force could invade Georgia.


Georgia had lots of russian equipment. Any invading force sustains losses, no matter how sophisticated and good they are. Look at the USA in afghanistan




ISRAEL WOULD UTTERLY ANNIHILATE RUSSIA IN ANY BATTLE


Once again you saying this is not going to make it true, russia has much more sophisticated and larger military. One topol-M could take out tel aviv



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posted on Apr, 10 2012 @ 05:51 PM
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After reading the article, the following can be stated:

In the high stakes game of poker or chess, this move should not be a surprise. Look at the current geopolitical areas, and who votes for what in the UN and especially the Security council. While the world and in specific the US votes one way, if it is within the interest of either China or Russia, they vote against such. So they are posturing to give Iran its back, and to assure them of who is on their side. Now keep this in mind cause there is more of an ulterior motive, and you can not get something for nothing. Consider this, and consider it well.

Taking a look in history gives a good idea on the mind set of Russia and its motives, and hopefully this is not the case. In the past, Russia suffered time and time again in different wars, losing both man power, materials and land. Slowly it developed the mindset of not letting this happen again. During World War II the stage and plans were laid to create a ring of territory around the country to prevent this from happening and the Iron Curtain went up. For years Russia has been wanting a warm water port for its navy, one where it could house its fleet and not be worried about ice. Combine that with the resources in Iran and it would make a very tempting target.

It knows that it can not successfully win in a conflict with a Muslim people, it tried in Afghanistan, and was forced to withdraw. Now an opportunity has come up and it sees the opportunity to use it to its advantage. Iran is a strategic place for it, not only giving it the port it wants, but also the resources it desires, namely oil. A greater control over the oil supply and it can booster itself up, to even rival China. The question that should be asked and focused on, is not about the placing of troops on the boarder with Iran, but what is it offering and what is China counter offering to Iran for their protection and good will. Nothing is free, and in this kind of posturing, they can’t have something for nothing. Much of the worlds oil supply goes through the Straits of Hormuz, and ultimately that is going to impact the price of oil and gas, around the world. It is a pretty tempting target and one that would give a good strong leverage against other countries, that are dependent on the oil that flows through there.

We should not be so foolish to think that the other world powers are just going to sit back and let this happen, as they are drawing lines in the sand to be either on the side of Iran or against it. The Chinese are certainly not going to just ideally sit by and let the Russians get a leg up on this either, so there is that factor to consider. China has been a long term ally of Iran and will react badly if Russia goes in, even under the pretense of assisting the Iranians in this endeavor, as it threatens their interest as well. The whole world is watching and we can hope that cooler heads and diplomats can work things out before the stroke of midnight and the next piece is moved.



posted on Apr, 10 2012 @ 05:52 PM
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The Topol-M is a badass intercontinential ballistic missle.......I wouldnt want to be on the receiving end of that beast...

Specifications
Weight- 47,200 kg (104,000 lb)
Length-22.7 m (74.47 ft)
Diameter- 1.9 m (6 ft 3 in)
Warhead- Single 800 kt warhead





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