"THEY shot his head off ... oh Jack what have THEY done" - Jackie Kennedy when JFK was shot

I don't buy the driver shot him but in the Zabruder film you will see the driver does come to almost a complete stop while they are in the kill zone while normal procedure is to maintain a 40 to 45 mph speed in crowds at all times...

A good video here of JFK at the Dallas airport as the Secret Service Agent's assigned to ride on the back of the limousine to protect his rear flank are called off & have to jump in the car behind JFK thus exposing him to a kill shot.

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Not sure I agree with the 40 - 45 mph being the normal speed of a motorcade ( how would the secret service agents who used to run alongside the car have kept up ? ) , but the rest of your post I totally agree with

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A few weeks ago I was speaking to a lady(someone who is not unstable or prone to exaggeration) who related that her uncle was a secret service agent. She told me about how he'd been assigned to gaurd LBJ in his last years and how LBJ was on permanent "suicide watch."

It was their opinion that Johnson was upset/suicidle at least partly in regards to Kennedy's death, i.e. that he was in some way responsible.

Just thought I'd throw that out there.

The location of the shot(s) were no accident, it was a classic sniper's triangle. Oswald may have fired one or two shots but not successfully, there likely was another shooter high up in another window at the SBD. Oswald was definitely a patsy, and a smart enough one to know he had been framed. That's why he ran. Everyone on both sides of the road heard shots coming from the grassy knoll and fence area, but the video showing dozens of people running that way (and a puff of smoke dissipating) were not shown until decades had passed.

Yes, Jackie climbed up on the back of the limo to retrieve a piece of Jack's skull that had flown up and landed on it. You can see her grab it as the SS agent shoves her back into the car and falls on top of them.

The driver didn't do it, he slowed down when he heard commotion in the back and probably also shots, then sped up as the agent climbed on board the back. While his slowing down was exceptionally bad timing, I don't think he was involved.

JFK, Jr. was murdered also, because he was getting ready to release information that would have indicted GHWB; interestingly, GWB was in an unknown location the weekend JFK Jr.'s plane went missing; even his campaign staff did not know where he was... Read the following, it's incredible.

www.rense.com...

Also, do a search for 'Who Killed JFK Jr?" and you'll get an eyeful.

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Everytime I come across a JFK thread on ATS. I go right to Rising Againsts' posts. I think the fact that he hasn't posted speaks volumes.
Snf for some great knowledge here. I applaued this thread really.

Baby Bull

With a great one. I have never seen that vid with those abandoned posts before. And that's exactly what they are. Abandoned posts.

Prosecutor:
Agensts whatever the F___ and who gives a F___ . Why did you abandon your posts ? I was ordered to by we really do give a F___.

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Yah cause the Secret Service don't run by the car- you been watching too many Clint Eastwood movies...

" Another casualty of presidential travel has been suffered in Albuquerque, N.M., where police officer Germain Casey, 40, died after his motorcycle crashed Monday escorting a motorcade that was returning President Bush to the Albuquerque airport.

But in truth, the motorcades that carry the president from place to place often move at breakneck speeds – and sometimes there are casualties"

Secret Service

Originally posted by BABYBULL24
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Yah cause the Secret Service don't run by the car- you been watching too many Clint Eastwood movies...

" Another casualty of presidential travel has been suffered in Albuquerque, N.M., where police officer Germain Casey, 40, died after his motorcycle crashed Monday escorting a motorcade that was returning President Bush to the Albuquerque airport.

But in truth, the motorcades that carry the president from place to place often move at breakneck speeds – and sometimes there are casualties"

Secret Service

I was being sarcastic about the agents running alongside the car .
The minimum mandatory speed for a presidential motorcade is 35mph . That was obviously not the case on that day in Dallas.

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4 years young when JFK was shot dead on the streets of Dallas.in 1963. The fact that it made my mother cry as I sat there on the couch with her, scarred me pretty deep. She was convinced from day one there was more than one shooter from a news reel that was shown right after it happened. She never seen it again after seeing it two times, right after the shooting. That day set my life on a course of never voting cause none of them were good enough reinforced by the odd crap going on the years that followed. Including what happened to our beloved Bobby. These people are classified as the wicked. Their kind will not last.

That's all I have to say about that.

Originally posted by toddy3174
ok i dont have time to go into it but watch the zapruder film and you will see jackie(MK-ultra assasin), once governer connelly gives the trigger word,say something to kennedy and shoot him from behind the left ear evidenced by the smoke mixed in with the blood. please look at this

I watched several videos over and over again, and I kept wondering what Jackie had in her right hand directly behind Jack's head. It looked to me that the shot that exploded his head outwards at the right temple had to have come from exactly where Jackie's hand was at the time. And after that shot, it appears that she tosses or drops something towards the back of the seat. I never considered this before, but the video certainly does make me wonder about this wrinkle. I have to admit I often wondered how Jackie came to become Mrs. Onassis, marrying one of the richest men in the world at the time. Payoff for a job well done? Or just the carrot offered for her to keep her mouth shut about what she really observed and knew?

I don't know about the rest of you, but I think that if I had gotten murdered, my wife would have NEVER rested till she found the one or ones responsible and did everything in her power to bring them to justice or exact revenge. I know if that happened to her, that would be my burden for the rest of my life.

What a screwed up world this is to even think of such possibilities.....

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I personally don't find it strange that she would have said they. We use "they" all the time in a generic sense.

Americans always kill their good ones.

Great words to ponder...
They,....
"You're one of them" - Henry Rollins
At a time when we were being taken over by commies,
Oh, Jackie-0 may have knew what was up.
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baka.

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EXACTLY. You are VP to one of the most loved Presidents of the US, in a plane high in the sky, being sworn in because of an assassination attempt on POTUS, and you are all smiles. I said attempt because JFK was not officially declared dead yet. I wonder how people can so easily believe the lies they hear. And after seeing how many fell for the 9/11 lie, TPTB now know they own us. OWN. We proved we are slaves when we looked the other way, swallowing the lies They fed us. Shame on us for being so spineless the day JFK died and on Sept. 11.


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I'm sorry, but while I agree that there is a lot about the assassination of JFK that doesn't make sense, it's common to refer to unknown persons as "they". I don't think I have ever heard someone use the word "someone" in place of it in a conversation like that. If it were a reporting of events in a formal manner then I can see that the term would be used, but in general people commonly refer to absent others/unknowns as "they".

I think this is just clutching at straws.

You also have to consider that if this was what we all think it was, why would "they" - after all that planning and covering up over so many years - allow someone to risk exposing it in a book?

I think if there were going to be anything in this book that could even remotely risk exposing them, "they" would have prevented its publication through any means.

I have long held the belief that there was an internal coup within the USA a long time ago. The elected do not make the decisions, the military/CIA does. They knew that he was a threat - possibly because they couldn't dig up any dirt to be able to control him, so they had to kill him.

That's just my opinion.

Originally posted by something wicked
.You have no idea what she was thinking while she was in shock so why try to put your thoughts around her words?

OF COURSE I don't know ... but at the same time the double use of the word 'they' seems out of place to me. AND this is a conspiracy site where we discuss things. So we are discussing it.

Originally posted by dawnprince
In my opinion Jackie Kennedy most definitely knew who THEY were, but chose to remain silent to protect herself and the lives of her children

That's where my paranoid conspiracist mind is headed to. At this point I agree with you.

Originally posted by signalfire
JFK, Jr. was murdered also,

I dunno. He was just an inexperienced pilot who was trying to fly a plane that was too big for him and who took off when he shouldn't have. I'm thinking arrogance killed him .. not the government.

Originally posted by octotom
I personally don't find it strange that she would have said they. We use "they" all the time in a generic sense.

Okay. But I really think that I'd have said 'someone shot my husband' instead of 'they shot my husband'. I know that in a stressful situation you never know ... but really I think it fits better and the use of 'they' seems odd to me.

He was much despised as Americas first roman president..I remember the stink it caused with my parents friends...many people had reason to want him dead

Penn and Tell did a great show on this and a couple of other theories. Its a great watch.

Originally posted by FlyersFan
When the secret service agent/body guard recounts the day JFK was shot, he tells us exactly what Jackie Kennedy said. She says "THEY" shot him ... and asks her dead husband "what have THEY done?"

So the proof is finally piling up. It's almost impossible to sweep under the rug anymore. Does anyone else have the feeling that the lid will be blown off this one in the near future?

A bit of an obvious question here - if the driver turned around and fired a gun, point blank within the confined space of a car - why didn't anyone react? Guns are LOUD, especially that close, it would have scared the living crap out of anyone in that car. Yet no one moved, which seems to indicate that no one fired a gun within the car.