California Assembly gives standing ovation to 5 illegals!!!

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posted on Mar, 20 2012 @ 12:31 PM
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Such is the case with a lot of the "Illegal" people on this planet. They go through the process, wait in line, pay the fee just like everybody, but there's that one little representation of time we created for ourselves that screws everything up.


Not true at all, why do you think that they only had 5 of them there?




posted on Mar, 20 2012 @ 12:31 PM
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I understand Mexico is bad , but guess what. Thank the good Lord our fore fathers fought the British with a rag-tag army and defeated the worlds greatest military power.

If you want your country back Mexico , guess what .... you gotta fight for it. Either politically or through guns. Pick one.

I doubt Political would work , simply because they assassinate everyone. Probably would have to be through weapons.
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posted on Mar, 20 2012 @ 12:34 PM
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posted on Mar, 20 2012 @ 12:36 PM
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Why is Obama for amnesty? Why is the Federal government is trying to get rid of State Voter ID laws right now?

Illegals are brought in to the US to be a voting block for the Democrats and are told if they want their welfare checks to vote for Obama and tax increases on the middle class. Destruction by design, right in front of your face. I feel sorry for what America has become.
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posted on Mar, 20 2012 @ 12:41 PM
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Not true at all, why do you think that they only had 5 of them there?


People have been protesting in masses for the passage of the dream act for the past few years.
If they could just walk in a building and say, ok im ready to be legal now and pay taxes, they would.




posted on Mar, 20 2012 @ 12:42 PM
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Originally posted by Konduit
I feel sorry for what America has become.


Amen, the American dream is now a nightmare that consists of our beautiful country getting gang raped by pack of illegals every day.



posted on Mar, 20 2012 @ 12:43 PM
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Sheesh. Well somebody better tell the Mexicans they and we stole everything from the native people who were here before all of us so after they take it from us, they'd better hand California and Mexico back to the "Indians" these lands were stolen from if they want to play that moral higher ground game.

I've got nothing against Mexicans personally but anybody who pulls that crap deserves to have their hypocrisy thrown back in their face. The history of the Spanish conquest of the Americas is as ugly and brutal as anything we have up north. I've read of the racism they show against the surviving displaced native people who don't assimilate into Mexican culture and refuse to speak Spanish. So they've got no call playing race cards or playing that "I was here first" garbage. Even if some of them are legitimate descendants of a mix between natives and conquerors, we have similar people up here. They are absolutely no different than the rest of us
Canadians or US Americans in that respect. From the tip of North America to the farthest end of South America, the modern day citizens of the countries within these continents stand on land drenched in the blood of the
conquered original owners of these lands.

If we are going to try to abide by very old historical claims, we may as well drag the French back into this mess.

edit, sorry I was responding to your post and realized I veered off topic. Back ON TOPIC, I'd hate to throw educated people out of the country. Especially after our tax money paid for that education. I'd like to see a sensible solution that's a win-win for all of us, yet does not reward law breaking or take anything away from law abiding immigrants like my mom who labor hard to earn their citizenship the legal way.

Perhaps there should be some kind of fine or requirement that they can get their citizenship but pay into some sort of fund or do some sort of community service. The fund could be something to help emergency services that currently are staggering under the burden of supporting non paying illegals. I really have no idea what a good solution would be, but I know something is wrong when we give out standing o's to people who ignore our law's and cause citizens or other legal immigrants to have less resources available to them.
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posted on Mar, 20 2012 @ 12:46 PM
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Originally posted by jaden_x
reply to post by DavidWillts
 




Such is the case with a lot of the "Illegal" people on this planet. They go through the process, wait in line, pay the fee just like everybody, but there's that one little representation of time we created for ourselves that screws everything up.



Not true at all, why do you think that they only had 5 of them there?


People have been protesting in masses for the passage of the dream act for the past few years.
If they could just walk in a building and say, ok im ready to be legal now and pay taxes, they would.



Your logic fails HARD and you destroy your own argument. The Dream act was made to give special scholarships to illegals NOT making them citizens. Because they WANT to be illegal and they want more FREE stuff. See how the dream act is win win for them? They get to stay illegal and they get FREE school on MY tax dollars.
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posted on Mar, 20 2012 @ 12:46 PM
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^^^^^^

Very well put. Like I mentioned earlier everyone in this country that is Caucasian has European descent, now do the math..



posted on Mar, 20 2012 @ 12:52 PM
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Originally posted by hurvundus
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^^^^^^

Very well put. Like I mentioned earlier everyone in this country that is Caucasian has European descent, now do the math..


Most Mexicans are of European descent, Mexico city used to be New Spain.



posted on Mar, 20 2012 @ 12:55 PM
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Quit with your crap about people who are against illegal immigration being bigots. It's a laughably intellectually dishonest claim and it means you no longer have any facts to sustain your argument.

I don't have one problem with Mexicans as a people, and I especially don't have a problem with Mexican INDIVIDUALS who come here legally and want to be Americans. The fact is, many of them come here simply to use and abuse the system. It's why California is in such a mess. Illegal immigrants are essentially stealing from middle and upper class taxpayers.

If you try and refute those facts by saying I'm a bigot, than it means I won the argument because you had to resort to ad hominem.



posted on Mar, 20 2012 @ 12:55 PM
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I'm not making fun of anybody. This is very serious business. I think you are the one taking offense because I do not like ILLEGAL immigration. There is nothing I wrote that is not true.

I'm half Puerto Rican. Am I blasting all latinos? Absolutely not. I have a real problem with illegal immigration, and I don't care where the person comes from. I used to work for immigration (Homeland Security) and so I am well aware of all the issues related to immigration. Illegals come here because they can get away with it, and get a lot of free swag in the process. If they weren't so disrespectful to the United States, I probably wouldn't be so angry about it.

Because Mexico is next to the US, they are the ones most likely to be illegal. This is a fact, one which, if you look at a map, makes a great deal of sense. I know legal Mexicans and I think they are wonderful people.

However, the illegal ones come here in blatant disregard of our laws, which sets the stage for many other problems that we now face.

You state you spent 25 years in Houston, Texas. You assume that Texas is "just like" California. That is incorrect. Texas remains an English-speaking place, although people from all over the world live here. Texas does not kow-tow to such irritating lobbying groups like LULAC. California does, because they claim they need the illegal workers to pick the crops and work the fields.

There is nothing bigoted in my writings, unless you want to say that I am bigoted against ILLEGALS, which is true. Why should I support and accept law-breakers? I believe in the sovereignty of The United States, and illegals flooding in and demanding that everything be handed to them in their native languages undermines that, absolutely.

Tell me why I am a bigot because I don't appreciate people coming to this country illegally and draining our resources. Tell me why I am a racist because I do not appreciate people sneaking over the border and then dragging their whole family with them, overpopulating our schools and slowing down the whole educational process because none of them speak English.

I think that you ASSUME bigotry against a race, rather than a situation and an attitude of entitlement.

The race card is always the one pulled out when anybody dares to say they are angry over illegal immigration. I wish my mother were here, she would be able to tell me what to write in Spanish so you would know exactly what I think of your insulting and inappropriate posts.



posted on Mar, 20 2012 @ 12:59 PM
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I think i should point out that in Mexico they have derogatory names for the Mexicans that come here illegally, they are very similar to terms we would call racial slurs. Illegal immigrants in America are not even liked by Mexicans. Because this has nothing to do with race and EVERYTHING to do with character.
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posted on Mar, 20 2012 @ 12:59 PM
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Hell no they wouldn't! Not the majority of them. Currently, illegals receive the best medical care on Earth, free education for their kids, they don't have to get a drivers license, pay insurance, they get welfare benefits etc. etc. etc. THEY ARE FREELOADERS and thieves and they know it!

I worked for a large commercial carpet cleaning company that had illegals working there. Trust me, they know EXACTLY what they're doing and believe you me, they think Americans are the dumbest mother #ers on Earth for letting them get away with it.



posted on Mar, 20 2012 @ 12:59 PM
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Originally posted by milkyway12
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I understand Mexico is bad , but guess what. Thank the good Lord our fore fathers fought the British with a rag-tag army and defeated the worlds greatest military power.

If you want your country back Mexico , guess what .... you gotta fight for it. Either politically or through guns. Pick one.

I doubt Political would work , simply because they assassinate everyone. Probably would have to be through weapons.
edit on 20-3-2012 by milkyway12 because: (no reason given)


Sadly they have been doing it politically and quietly for years. They saw the corruption of the US political system and decided it would be easier putting people in place to work it from the inside then to fight it from the outside. And its working!! Flood the state with illegals and illegally set them up for life through corrupt politicians. The mexican consulate in Los Angeles hands out flyers on how to work the Republik de Kalifornia welfare and education systems. There are numerous threads on here about that, just search.

TPTB dont want to stop it either or else we would have secure borders and also US Citizens and LEO's wouldnt be dying from drug runners and coyotes and corrupt mexican military killing us on our soil and slipping back across to call olie olie oxen free in their "mexican Safe Spot"

Last i checked, that was insurgency and would warrant military response from the "invaded" country.

And my ancestors did it the right way. They came through Ellis Island, learned the language, became legal citizens, started prosperous businesses and became contributing Americans. They didnt live off the welfare system, pump out kids for a bigger check and cry about every little thing.



posted on Mar, 20 2012 @ 01:02 PM
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Maybe they will come thru my state so that I can arrest them for being illegal and then send them packing back to their country of origin.

Maybe all the lawmakers that were in the room where 5 illegal aliens were present and did nothing about the illegal status should be charged with aiding/harboring fugitives.



posted on Mar, 20 2012 @ 01:02 PM
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Good post. You're from central Cali, so you KNOW what is going on. It is an invasion, albeit a slow, painful one.



posted on Mar, 20 2012 @ 01:05 PM
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Nothing wrong with immigrants that want to legally come to your country work for a living and pay taxes like everyone else.

How many of you enjoy paying your money to people that collect welfare while working under the table, get free medical care that born and raised citizens pay and get in debt for while not paying a single dime of taxes in return?



posted on Mar, 20 2012 @ 01:06 PM
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That really is the most sensible post in this thread. Thank you! I to want a realistic solution to the problem, but the problem is, the parties at the table with agendas are still feeding at the trough. Politicians, especially Democrats and bleeding heart liberals, want the illegals here for votes. The liberals think the illegals need to be coddled and cuddled so they don't get their feelings hurt. The business people want them here to depress wages (and believe me, they depress wages for EVERYONE, not just fruit pickers and janitors).

IMO, a solution to illegal immigration that resembles legal immigration of the early 20th century ain't gonna happen. Like I said earlier, Anglo Saxon's are literally a dying people. Mexicans and people of Latino background are becoming VERY powerful in the United States politically.



posted on Mar, 20 2012 @ 01:07 PM
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Originally posted by mikelkhall
Maybe they will come thru my state so that I can arrest them for being illegal and then send them packing back to their country of origin.

Maybe all the lawmakers that were in the room where 5 illegal aliens were present and did nothing about the illegal status should be charged with aiding/harboring fugitives.


That is because this is California, Im not sure if you are from here or not but the left wing liberal socialists that run this place have even gone so far to push the idea that the very term "illegal alien" is racist. Now they are supposed to call them "undocumented workers" which is crap because not all of them work but they are all ILLEGAL ALIENS.





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