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Let's Cut to the Chase - Iran Must Be Stopped

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posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 05:11 PM
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it should be noted that the Egyptian people are now being recruited as mercenaries by the west in order to topple the next countries, like was done in Libya.

Knock one down. use the starving people to invade the next. Promise them money and then if they die killing other middle eastern people, you don't pay. If they don't die, you don't pay.

It's a win win situation. for them, Really MILLIONS of people will be dead by the end of the conquest of the middle east.




edit on 28-2-2012 by freethis because: (no reason given)




posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 05:12 PM
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If Israel attacks Syria or Iran, all the allies need to eliminate all of the Israelis weapons and take control over the entire country for the rest of time and integrate the Arabs and the Jewish.

Even if Israel gets caught with these Mossad Stick Bomb problems, it is time to move in and take over Israel and eliminate the problem. Take away their nukes especially. The elimination of the country as a religious state needs to be terminated for all time.

If Israel resists those sanctions, then level all the nuclear weapons plants and major cities that exhibit any resistance. And take all their military equipment. They will be managed militarily by multiple outside sources.

If Israel retaliates against any country with nukes, then level the entire country with nukes.

Eisenhower didn't put up with this overbearing attitude from the Israelis and he'd tell them to shut up.


It is time Israel adopted the ways of the Essene and is forced to dump these Zionist Babylon Talmud problems for all eternity. They are not any Chosen People, because everyone is chosen under a benevolent intending God.


The Zionists are going to have to learn they are nothing special and no more close to a benevolent God than anyone else, and if anything less so.

Not only are the Zionists going to have to be harshly dealt with, so are the Vatican and Christian con artists that made Jesus / Messiah into something that he was not. Fixing all the issues to stamp out the false teachings is going to have to include making the Catholic Church do away with all these GOLD crosses that basically stand for Tammuz and what they have tried since the times of Constantine to shape Jesus and the Messiah into. All the Catholic and Christian hyped up nonsense on Trinity needs to get dissovled as untrue. Put up photos of Christ, no crosses linked to Tammuz, and stop trying to impress everyone with their wealth.

Then these corrections can merge Islam with the thinking of Jesus was a Great Prophet and the definitions of God will more closely match when the vapid Catholics and Christians are not trying to tell everyone that Jesus is god. All these wrong concepts entrenched in Catholic and Christian religion to make Jesus into Tammuz are going to have to be outed in the everyday teachings of the churches from the little children to the old cranky adults that don't like changes.

When that gets done, The Jewish still have the Pentatuch, Noah, Moses, David, and Solomon in good standing, but they have to toss out all the issues of the Babylon Talmud methods associated with Satan. The Christians will be happy as the Jesus being a high Essene Master will be the truth and he will still be a messiah come to save the world from these terrible transgressions against religious truth. The Islamics will be happy because they can then agree that Jesus was a Great Prophet and it appears Jesus supported an additional Great Arab Prophet and most likely they can then agree on that God being common to both. Then we won't have problems with Infidels and the corruption of both the Catholic and Christian religions into Tammus Fairy Tales for those that don't know religious history and the better ways to address the problems.


Finish all that up with no more bankers, oligarchs, or Satanic money games will be allowed to lord over any countries benevolence and responsibilty toward the well being of their people.

When all that happens, and all read from the same pious beliefs, there will be no more need for wars for power and money.







edit on 28-2-2012 by MagnumOpus because: Heavy Reforms



posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 05:15 PM
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the thing is, once they finish with the ME, the rest of the world is up for grabs.

We die, and kill each other. fight each other. try and hurt those that want to stop the madness. I guess it's ok for Nazi like actions that lead to the death of millions if it means our leaders are happy.



posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 05:18 PM
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does Egypt have Nuclear Weapons and is Egypt threatening Israel.I used Egypt as a solid example of an Arab Government Falling into unsettled hands as could Iran and its would be Nuclear Arsenal.

we are not playing "save the cheerleader save the world" here this is for real and right now



posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 05:23 PM
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no this is part of the systematic extermination of people. The dominance of other nations. look to all the nations we have destroyed with mercenary armies. Its ugly but it's us. we are the Nazis of our age. Those that resist will be eliminated or silenced first. Then we start the real killing. Then we are the enemies that need correcting.

don't be naive. how many countries have fallen by the use of mercenary armies in the last couple of years.

not motivated yet to change this somehow? Ok. when it's your kids suffering a global dictatorship and you are too old to do anything and things are too far gone, remember this sentiment. It will console you.



posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 05:49 PM
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Originally posted by freethis
the thing is, once they finish with the ME, the rest of the world is up for grabs.

We die, and kill each other. fight each other. try and hurt those that want to stop the madness. I guess it's ok for Nazi like actions that lead to the death of millions if it means our leaders are happy.


Well, the best way is to break up the entire systemic games by those intent on playing the Babylon games to take over the world and have a few religiously corrupted oligarchs in charge of the world via their banking and corporation shelters. Systemic changes are going to have to be put into place that return wealth to the people and doesn't let the bankers or corporations ignore benevolent goals for the all the people's well being.


The US is going to have to stop being dupped into paying for the wars for the corrupt oligarchs intent on trying to make this Iran and Israel thing into the Christians battle the Islams and the evil bankers and corporations get rich and take over larger parts of the world.

Everyone is learning these oligarchic game plans, and most know what they are trying to do-----and the best play is do the opposite. Resist this Iran War. If Israel has to have a war, let them start one. Then get them for war crimes and take over the entire area, take away all their weapons, and dissolve the entire country based on a religion. Governments need to be free of religion's bias against others.

If Israel does commit a war crime, if they resist, level the entire country due to their theats against all of Europe.



posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 05:52 PM
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yeah but even if they told us what they are going to do we would just be worried that it might hurt and ask to be killed silently and painlessly.

First we need to fix our heads and grow some balls. we are scared of them. even though we number in the billions.



posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 06:03 PM
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Can I ask why they must be stopped? There is no evidence of a nuclear weapon. Just like Iraq who had weapons of mass destruction? Over 100,000 Iraqi's lost their lives during that war. The United States spent themselves into bankruptcy over it as well.

Now you say that we should go to Iran and stop them? Stop them from what exactly? Do you have any data other than subjective, qualitative opinions of the media? Do you?

Would you hold that position if there was a 30% chance that you or your family would be killed if we did attack Iran? Would you? Would you get out of your recliner, step away from your TV and internet to go there and kill those people yourself?

I don't get this mindset in the United States today, I really don't. Ignorance and laziness.



posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 06:16 PM
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That sign says "Israel should be...," not Israel will be.
I guess you think we should go to war over this.
Iran CAN'T even by a danger to any country, let alone Israel for probably five to 10 years.
It's not our fight. Why should we?
Answer me that. Why should we be responsible for going to war with Iran?
Israel can do whatever they want, but it is not our job to do anything with Iran.



posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 07:11 PM
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Originally posted by milominderbinder

Who hates Jews? I haven't heard anybody state they "hate Jews". Many have pointed out that Israel cannot be trusted...but how does this extend to "hating Jews"?


If someone wants Iran to have nuclear weapons
then they hate jews and americans since
Iran has made clear they will use
their nuclear bombs to wipe israel
off the map and kill *evil* americans.

It is easy to understand really,
we will not have a nuclear Iran.



posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 07:35 PM
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Personally I have no problem with Iran having nukes. MSM FBI CIA NSA ICE ATF FDA FCC USA are the real threat. Put them to check and the rest of the world will follow. The people have the power, the people choose not to use it. Order out of chaos. If Iran makes it a tad hectic for a bit, then it is smooth sailing for the world. We should not worry about deaths. That happens no matter what. Would it not be wise to die trying? Or should people continue to die in vain, while entertaining TPTB? It has nothing to do with humanity, threats, peace, religion, race, all the propaganda we are fed daily. It's greed. Nothing more, nothing less. "Make love not war". How many people get UPSET at that sentence?


 
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posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 07:39 PM
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Originally posted by popsmayhem

It is easy to understand really,
we will not have a nuclear Iran.


Too late m8.


North Korea is a friend to Iran.
Russia is a friend to Iran.
China is a friend to Iran.
Pakistan is a friend to Iran.



posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 07:49 PM
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Originally posted by DoNotForgetMe
Personally I have no problem with Iran having nukes. MSM FBI CIA NSA ICE ATF FDA FCC USA are the real threat. Put them to check and the rest of the world will follow. The people have the power, the people choose not to use it. Order out of chaos. If Iran makes it a tad hectic for a bit, then it is smooth sailing for the world. We should not worry about deaths. That happens no matter what. Would it not be wise to die trying? Or should people continue to die in vain, while entertaining TPTB? It has nothing to do with humanity, threats, peace, religion, race, all the propaganda we are fed daily. It's greed. Nothing more, nothing less. "Make love not war". How many people get UPSET at that sentence?


 
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Americans need to face it, the biggest threat in America is the local police department. Yeah see, coppers gotta go, see. Yeah. Actually that makes sense. If we ever do decide to take back America, it would be wise to start with the peons first and work our way up to the Whitehouse. We only need to remember the words of the true American Patriot, the US Marine-KILL KILL KILL.


Seems to me there is a pattern here. Are you an American? if so do you love your country. Hey A lot of people have lost the dream. Soon I will be sleeping in my dream astro van but I love my country I know my government is elected every 2 or 4 years and I know right from wrong.
Iran having Nukes isnt the answer for the world and removing Israel isnt the answer.People keep bringing up Innocent Iraq ...really Innocent Nope sorry. Ask those hostages held by Iran for 444 days starting back in 1979 if they think Iran should possess Nuclear Weapons. Forgot about that one?
edit on 28-2-2012 by rebellender because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 08:43 PM
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Originally posted by Tw0Sides

Originally posted by popsmayhem

It is easy to understand really,
we will not have a nuclear Iran.


Too late m8.


North Korea is a friend to Iran.
Russia is a friend to Iran.
China is a friend to Iran.
Pakistan is a friend to Iran.


Are you sure?

ATS Thread - WikiLeaks: Russia gave Israel codes for defense system sold to Iran



posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 09:13 PM
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Originally posted by freethis
reply to post by milominderbinder
 


it should be noted that the Egyptian people are now being recruited as mercenaries by the west in order to topple the next countries, like was done in Libya.

Knock one down. use the starving people to invade the next. Promise them money and then if they die killing other middle eastern people, you don't pay. If they don't die, you don't pay.

It's a win win situation. for them, Really MILLIONS of people will be dead by the end of the conquest of the middle east.

...and even better...the end result will be enmity in the Middle East! You can almsot feel those defense contractor and pepper spray stocks climbing, can't you?



edit on 28-2-2012 by freethis because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 09:35 PM
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Originally posted by rebellender
reply to post by milominderbinder
 


does Egypt have Nuclear Weapons and is Egypt threatening Israel.I used Egypt as a solid example of an Arab Government Falling into unsettled hands as could Iran and its would be Nuclear Arsenal.

we are not playing "save the cheerleader save the world" here this is for real and right now


OK...

Again...WHY SHOULD THE UNITED STATES CARE WHAT HAPPENS TO ISRAEL??? We don't care when the Hutus are killing the tutsis. We could care less what happens in Darfur. We didn't lift a finger to stop Pol Pot. When Menghitsu was killing 1.5 million Ethiopians we were preoccupied with Stevie Nicks and her coc aine binge.

Secondly...WHY ARE WE NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THE VERY UNSTABLE AND MANIACAL GOVERNMENT IN ISRAEL...WHO HAS NUCLEAR WEAPONS? Israel has been threatening it's neighbors with nukes for decades.

Why don't we invade them instead?



posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 10:08 PM
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Originally posted by rebellender

Originally posted by DoNotForgetMe
Personally I have no problem with Iran having nukes. MSM FBI CIA NSA ICE ATF FDA FCC USA are the real threat. Put them to check and the rest of the world will follow. The people have the power, the people choose not to use it. Order out of chaos. If Iran makes it a tad hectic for a bit, then it is smooth sailing for the world. We should not worry about deaths. That happens no matter what. Would it not be wise to die trying? Or should people continue to die in vain, while entertaining TPTB? It has nothing to do with humanity, threats, peace, religion, race, all the propaganda we are fed daily. It's greed. Nothing more, nothing less. "Make love not war". How many people get UPSET at that sentence?


 
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Americans need to face it, the biggest threat in America is the local police department. Yeah see, coppers gotta go, see. Yeah. Actually that makes sense. If we ever do decide to take back America, it would be wise to start with the peons first and work our way up to the Whitehouse. We only need to remember the words of the true American Patriot, the US Marine-KILL KILL KILL.


Seems to me there is a pattern here. Are you an American? if so do you love your country. Hey A lot of people have lost the dream. Soon I will be sleeping in my dream astro van but I love my country I know my government is elected every 2 or 4 years and I know right from wrong.
Iran having Nukes isnt the answer for the world and removing Israel isnt the answer.People keep bringing up Innocent Iraq ...really Innocent Nope sorry. Ask those hostages held by Iran for 444 days starting back in 1979 if they think Iran should possess Nuclear Weapons. Forgot about that one?
edit on 28-2-2012 by rebellender because: (no reason given)


I bet that 444 days is looking downright humane to Bradley Manning, Jose Padilla, and the Gitmo crowd, huh?

Also...do you suppose that holding those hostages might have had anything to do with the 27 years of endemic warfare which was caused directly by US subversion of a lawful free-market democracy??

And as far as "loving" America...ehhh...not really. I'm actually sort of indifferent. It's not like there is much of anything to love about the U.S. anymore. Now...Norway, Finland, Sweden...maybe even Denmark. That's a different story. Now those are countries I could love.

Don't get me wrong...some of the American people are OK. But really...most of us are fat, lazy, stupid, greedy, and ignorant. Some of us are so ignorant that we don't even pause to ask ourselves why we have so many enemies if we are such a wonderful country.



posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 10:13 PM
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Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
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That sign says "Israel should be...," not Israel will be.
I guess you think we should go to war over this.
Iran CAN'T even by a danger to any country, let alone Israel for probably five to 10 years.
It's not our fight. Why should we?
Answer me that. Why should we be responsible for going to war with Iran?
Israel can do whatever they want, but it is not our job to do anything with Iran.


Precisely. Personally...I think the Israelis have it coming.



posted on Feb, 29 2012 @ 12:00 AM
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And as far as "loving" America...ehhh...not really. I'm actually sort of indifferent. It's not like there is much of anything to love about the U.S. anymore. Now...Norway, Finland, Sweden...maybe even Denmark. That's a different story. Now those are countries I could love. Don't get me wrong...some of the American people are OK. But really...most of us are fat, lazy, stupid, greedy, and ignorant. Some of us are so ignorant that we don't even pause to ask ourselves why we have so many enemies if we are such a wonderful country.

well hey may maybe the socialist communist lifestyle will work out for ya there, you might fit in well in a hard line Islam country you never know. maybe even do volentary stays at GTMO your self.
Iran needs Nuke scientists but you have to have your own security team, armored car helps. Things will work out for you.
So you are all for giving Iran Nukes? well if your there and you......well you will figure it out



posted on Feb, 29 2012 @ 12:03 AM
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Originally posted by milominderbinder

Originally posted by rebellender
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does Egypt have Nuclear Weapons and is Egypt threatening Israel.I used Egypt as a solid example of an Arab Government Falling into unsettled hands as could Iran and its would be Nuclear Arsenal.

we are not playing "save the cheerleader save the world" here this is for real and right now


OK...

Again...WHY SHOULD THE UNITED STATES CARE WHAT HAPPENS TO ISRAEL??? We don't care when the Hutus are killing the tutsis. We could care less what happens in Darfur. We didn't lift a finger to stop Pol Pot. When Menghitsu was killing 1.5 million Ethiopians we were preoccupied with Stevie Nicks and her coc aine binge.

Secondly...WHY ARE WE NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THE VERY UNSTABLE AND MANIACAL GOVERNMENT IN ISRAEL...WHO HAS NUCLEAR WEAPONS? Israel has been threatening it's neighbors with nukes for decades.

Why don't we invade them instead?

Why should USA not care for the majority of Israeli's who are not zionists



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