It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.
Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.
Thank you.
Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.
Originally posted by Bob Sholtz
let's compromise
Originally posted by MathiasAndrew
Want me to really open up a can of worms???
I feel a need to qualify this statement first, lol, I'm just playing devil's advocate here OK
Let me first say my father was Hispanic, so don't take my next comment as being racially motivated.
But,
If gay marriage is legalized in Texas, how many Mexicans are going to magically become gay to gain citizenship through false gay marriages?
Originally posted by MathiasAndrew
reply to post by lordtyp0
Are you trying to be argumentative ot ignorant on purpose?
I can tell you are a smart enough individual to understand what I'm saying.
In the United States the authority over seeing marriage licenses has always been the individual States.
The current law in the United States give individual States the authority to issue marriage licenses.
If certain States laws are found to be unconstitutional then the Federal Government can change that law.
Since it's been 45 years since the interracial marriage issue made it to the Supreme Court.
Comparing interracial marriage to same sex marriage is obviously not so clear cut.
The burden of proof is on you the prove that homosexuality is the same as skin pigmentation or racial ethnicity.
Discrimination is the prejudicial treatment of an individual based on their membership in a certain group or category. It involves the actual behaviors towards groups such as excluding or restricting members of one group from opportunities that are available to another group. It involves excluding or restricting members of one group from opportunities that are available to other groups.
Originally posted by MathiasAndrew
If gay marriage is legalized in Texas, how many Mexicans are going to magically become gay to gain citizenship through false gay marriages?
if gay couples can get the rights they want AND keep tensions down between homophobic people, then call it a civil union, not marriage.
gays get the rights they want, and religious people keep their "sanctity". win win.
if you disagree with my logic, then the issue isn't about rights. if it isn't about rights, then there is no issue.
Originally posted by Bob Sholtz
i'm fine with homosexuals, and i have two gay best friends.
personally, i think it is wrong, but personally i think the best color is blue. i love my friends and i wish them the best.
lets be completely honest. gay couples want the same rights that straight couples get. let's compromise (not for my personal sake, but for the country at large, as most religious folk are stubborn)
if gay couples can get the rights they want AND keep tensions down between homophobic people, then call it a civil union, not marriage.
gays get the rights they want, and religious people keep their "sanctity". win win.
if you disagree with my logic, then the issue isn't about rights. if it isn't about rights, then there is no issue.
So tell me why blacks should get the same rights as whites. Why weren't blacks satisfied with sitting at the back of the bus? They got to ride on the bus, so what's the big deal?
Originally posted by MathiasAndrew
You see if the Federal Government takes over the rights of individual States to issue marriages licenses and then legalizes same sex marriage in all States.
It will then set a new precedent. In the gay community gaining their "civil right of marriage". You take away the rights and the power of the State. Which we all know is a dangerous thing.
Trust me, the gay community does not want this to go to the supreme court. And it would be even worse should they win. It will just be one step closer to the North American Union and a police state. One World Government.
Be careful what you wish for. At least don't be blind to the problems concerning taking away the rights of indiviual States to create their own laws and vote on their own local public policies.
Originally posted by MathiasAndrew
reply to post by kaylaluv
So tell me why blacks should get the same rights as whites. Why weren't blacks satisfied with sitting at the back of the bus? They got to ride on the bus, so what's the big deal?
Actually, that issue is 45 years old and if you want to keep using it then the burden of proof is on you to show that homosexuality is some how the same a racial ethnicity.
Originally posted by MathiasAndrew
You see if the Federal Government takes over the rights of individual States to issue marriages licenses and then legalizes same sex marriage in all States.
The "writing is on the wall".
Originally posted by MathiasAndrew
If gay marriage is legalized in Texas, how many Mexicans are going to magically become gay to gain citizenship through false gay marriages?
Originally posted by ignorant_ape
1 out of 14 is a lower divorce rate than hetrosexual marriage
Originally posted by MathiasAndrew
reply to post by Annee
The "writing is on the wall".
"The lunatic is in your head"
Another brick in the wall