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Originally posted by MathiasAndrew
If gay marriage is legalized in Texas, how many Mexicans are going to magically become gay to gain citizenship through false gay marriages?
Originally posted by MathiasAndrew
reply to post by Annee
No real answer to what ?
What is the question?
Looked to me like you made a statment. Gave your opinion.
That was just my reaction. If you have an actual question go ahead and ask and I will try to answer it.
Well, my last post was removed due to manners (and it should have been) I apologize to the mods for that, and to anyone else I may have offended with the exception of the person it was directed at.
A logical reason why states should have marriage rights. That is the question. A real logical reason.
States need rights for things that affect their geographic location. That makes sense.
Marriage Licenses .... the part that deals with the whole Government part are issued by individual cities and States.
That's one good reason. If you go and get married you don't ever have to send in an application to the Federal Government.
en.wikipedia.org...
A marriage license (American English) or marriage licence (British English) is a document issued, either by a church or state authority, authorizing a couple to marry. The procedure for obtaining a license varies between countries and has changed over time. Marriage licenses began to be issued in the Middle Ages, to permit a marriage which would otherwise be illegal (for instance, if the necessary period of notice for the marriage had not been given).
Today, they are a legal requirement in some jurisdictions and may also serve as the record of the marriage itself, if signed by the couple and witnessed.
The Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) (Pub.L. 104-199, 110 Stat. 2419, enacted September 21, 1996, 1 U.S.C. § 7 and 28 U.S.C. § 1738C) is a United States federal law that defines marriage as the legal union of one man and one woman. The law passed both houses of Congress by large majorities and was signed into law by President Bill Clinton on September 21, 1996.
Under the law, no U.S. state or other political subdivision of the U.S. may be required to recognize as a marriage a same-sex relationship considered a marriage in another state.
Section 2. Powers reserved to the states No State, territory, or possession of the United States, or Indian tribe, shall be required to give effect to any public act, record, or judicial proceeding of any other State, territory, possession, or tribe respecting a relationship between persons of the same sex that is treated as a marriage under the laws of such other State, territory, possession, or tribe, or a right or claim arising from such relationship.
Originally posted by MathiasAndrew
reply to post by Annee
A logical reason why states should have marriage rights. That is the question. A real logical reason.
States need rights for things that affect their geographic location. That makes sense.
I already answered this question. Pg. 26 of this thread I replied to your post and wrote
That does not answer the question.
Originally posted by MathiasAndrew
Marriage Licenses .... the part that deals with the whole Government part are issued by individual cities and States.
That's one good reason. If you go and get married you don't ever have to send in an application to the Federal Government.
States are and have always been the authority that issues marriage licenses.
I also provided the current Federal Law
Originally posted by MathiasAndrew
reply to post by Annee
That does not answer the question.
It certainly does answer the question. IT"S THE LAW
There is ZERO real logical reason for individual states to determine marriage rights.
The decision, which came Tuesday morning in San Francisco, upholds a federal district court decision striking down the law. The decision by a three-judge panel of the Ninth U.S. Circuit all but ensures that the issue of gay marriage is headed for the U.S. Supreme Court.
Originally posted by MathiasAndrew
reply to post by Annee
There is ZERO real logical reason for individual states to determine marriage rights.
This is just your opinion and I disagree.
In fact there is ZERO reason the Federal Government should take over the issuing of marriage licenses.
Originally posted by ignant
Can Americans currently claim same sex spouse on IRS tax form as Married Filing Jointly?
Can " " " on State tax form " " " ?
The laughy face is childish and annoying. We are speaking of human beings here.
Originally posted by MathiasAndrew
reply to post by Majiq1
Well, my last post was removed due to manners (and it should have been) I apologize to the mods for that, and to anyone else I may have offended with the exception of the person it was directed at.
I stopped reading your post at this point.
You're just a rude, ignorant person and I don't care what your opinion is.
First of all, the OP equates gay marriage to marrying dogs, computers, etc... showing clearly that they don't even regard gays as people, but then goes on to say that they are not anti gay, and even support gay rights. That is hypocrisy to the fullest, and you have the nerve to in every other post call others hypocrites. I mean... really?
Originally posted by Annee
reply to post by MrXYZ
Ya know what gets me?
These States Rights "people". If marriage rights are determined by states. What is DOMA?
States that allow same-sex marriages, domestic partnerships or civil unions:
State Type of partnership Allows joint filing of state tax return
California Civil union/
domestic partnership Yes
Connecticut Marriage Yes
Delaware Civil union/
domestic partnership Yes
District Marriage Yes
of Columbia
Hawaii Civil union/ No
domestic partnership
Illinois Civil union/ Yes
domestic partnership
Iowa Marriage Yes
Massachusetts Marriage Yes
Nevada Civil union/ No state income tax
domestic partnership
New
Hampshire Marriage Yes
New Jersey Civil union/
domestic partnership Yes
New York Marriage Yes
Oregon Civil union/ Yes
domestic partnership
Rhode Island Civil unions No
Vermont Marriage Yes
Washington Marriage No state income tax