Originally posted by smithjustinb
I know we're humans.
I know what we do.
I know our basic function.
I know our needs.
I know where I came from (sort of).
I know what I like and what I don't like.

But even as I know all of that, I still have no idea what I am. I know what others have told me I am, but I've found that that is a misidentification.

I believe that we can't identify ourselves as something and it be what we really are. I believe that at the moment of conceptualizing, the truth fades. I believe we think we can come close to proper identification, but we inevitably always miss the mark. So therefore, any conceptualization about anything only serves to demean the truth of what it is. So what do you say you are? Is this even knowable?

I think it is knowable, but only in the moment. Only when you are where you are in full mind can you see the truth. You won't know what to call it, and calling it anything will distort it, but you will at least see it.

I loved what you wrote. Inspiring.

We are what we choose to percieve ourselfes as. As I change what I belive I am is redifined. And sometimes I can be different things in a short while. I do only know some of my mind and body if they are even mine. But I am connected to everything else but what everything else is is hard for me to define since I am not even sure what I am. I am probably crazy . Namaste

Originally posted by openminded2011
Are we immortal spiritual beings housed in a temporary vessel of crude matter, or just meat that can think?

First, while I can toadily relate to the meat comment, whatever made you think they can think?

Second, WE are kNot housed, WE are connected to the housing.

Your Soul cannot physically exist in this Spatial Verse but it can animate that which can exist here.

Sew what are We? We are an experiment and those that know that, are playing the game instead of letting it play them!

Ribbit

So infinite can be true to Its definiton and also be finite as a set that is composed of every possible variation of everything that is finite, which requires eternity to complete. With us finites as proxies, through the Presence stationed half inside the infinite and half inside all that is finite, communion in BOTH directions is achieved.

Now omnipresence can partake of the consciousness of silence, void, nothingness, nonexistence via communion with us finites, thus also be "present" inside of nonexistence. Through finites, Infinite is complete and greater than infinite.

Originally posted by tkwasny
So infinite can be true to Its definiton and also be finite as a set that is composed of every possible variation of everything that is finite, which requires eternity to complete. With us finites as proxies, through the Presence stationed half inside the infinite and half inside all that is finite, communion in BOTH directions is achieved.

Now omnipresence can partake of the consciousness of silence, void, nothingness, nonexistence via communion with us finites, thus also be "present" inside of nonexistence. Through finites, Infinite is complete and greater than infinite.

Beautifully said!

Basically, Mom gets to play with WE as WE play!

I never thought about the proxy particular but it's a great way of looking at it. It's too bad the 3rd communion isn't possible 24/7/52 but our puny mYds couldn't handle IT.

The finites are the children of Infinite and draw their eternalness from the well of Source Infinite!

I = SqR (eYe)²

Ribbit