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Romney: "I'm Not Concerned About the Very Poor"

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posted on Feb, 1 2012 @ 01:33 PM
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Originally posted by Liquesence

"I'm not concerned about the very poor. We have a safety net there. If it needs repair, I'll fix it."


Wow, the nerve of this guy. I'm no fan of Romney, but i can hardly believe he has the softballs to say this--nationally.

Safetly nets that YOU want to GET RID OF!?!


Believe it or not, for all the howls about socialism and how evil it is, GOP politicians are usually the first ones to jump up and attack dems for cutting into medicare. I've had a number of libertarians assure me that we have safety nets in this country for those left behind the 'free market'. I mean it's as if these folks completely forget their political positions before.




posted on Feb, 1 2012 @ 01:38 PM
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I've been really poor and it sucks. However its hard to feel sympathy for the homeless if I just went form experience. The ones I've met were drug and alcohol addicts that pushed it on too kids around the neighborhood, and here in Austin the homeless are all shaved, clean and have bikes or Ipods with them. Then I see the guy in the pirate custom dancing around and working his job I rather give him my money.

Though I can't judge all of them from skin deep impressions, I don't know how or why they got there. Anyways I hope Mitt falls into a coma for the rest of the election, no harm or anything just taken out intill the race is over.



posted on Feb, 1 2012 @ 01:40 PM
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Originally posted by Mcupobob
. . . . . Anyways I hope Mitt falls into a coma for the rest of the election, no harm or anything just taken out intill the race is over.


That has to be the most polite slam I've ever read on ATS!

I star'd you just for that.



posted on Feb, 1 2012 @ 01:51 PM
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The very poor have medicaid, section 8 housing, food stamps and many other programs, They have not been affected by the recession it is the middle class who work and try hard at raising themselves up and being self sufficient who have been hit hardest by the recession.


Yeah, but the rules in place make sure that those very poor can't try to move up and out. It also stops those of us that find ourselves staring at poverty from getting help.

When the company I worked for went belly up the response everywhere was, "sell your house, cash in your 401ks, sell off any stock you have, empty out your money market account, sell your cars and buy beaters. Then we can help you." In other words, if you are trying to be responsible and plan long term, screw you.

When I looked in to going back to school I got the same response. Plus, they told me, "Your wife makes more than $400 a week you guys don't qualify for any grants."

When I tried to get unemployment they told me, "You were technically an independent contractor. You do not qualify for any benefit."

I barely made it through from 2008 - 2010. Many times if it hadn't been for the charity of family we would have went hungry. This idea that some how the very poor are well taken care of is crazy. What they are is held in a debt prison that encourages them to stay on the government dollar if they even want to survive. They aren't taken care of. They are sustained with policies that discourage hard work, saving, or trying to develop strong family units. They are discouraged from striking out on legal business ventures of their own. They know if the venture fails they have even less of a net.

I don't think we should be lavishing money on people that refuse to work. However, we need to realize that the current system really isn't a safety net. It is a method of subsistence that encourages people not to try. It also encourages the destruction of family units and fraud.

Mitt does need to worry about the very poor. We all should. The policies we have in place for them have been destructive. They really do little more than encourage a subsistence lifestyle that gets passed from generation to generation.



posted on Feb, 1 2012 @ 02:01 PM
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I don't like the guys polices, and his face does annoy me, but I don't wish any harm upon him. Plus he looks tired could use a long nap



posted on Feb, 1 2012 @ 02:05 PM
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shows what you know

Mitt and Romney are the same person...

I really feel like these politic threads go no where... no one listens to reason or even knows the actual facts... you know like peoples names.



posted on Feb, 1 2012 @ 02:07 PM
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It is not always the case in America that if you are poor you do not have money for things or for food. In America you have "obligations" to meet regardless of the money you may or may not have. The very poor mostly have fewer obligations and can get food stamps and other such things in order to eat. It is the lower middle class or those who work and are at the povery level that have it more difficult due to these obligations. It costs money to work and have a job, sometimes more than it pays.

A single mother working at around minimum wage often has to pay child care. She must drive to work because public transportation is intentionally sub-standard, doesn't cover her home to work area, and its hours don't fit her shift so she has to maintain a vehicle which requires maintenance, insurance, yearly inspections, plus the cost of gas and oil. She must maintain a home and that has utility bills. Cable TV, basic, may seem like a luxury one could do without but explain that to the kids or try to keep them occupied without it.

Then there are any number of daily hazards one must face that gains more of these "obligations." Driving to work she gets pulled-over for having a brake light on one side that burned out. She may keep a spare in her glove box but trying to find the screwdriver needed to change it is more than the police officer can bear so she gets a ticket, perhaps another ticket on her way today because now she is late for work and must hurry or she gets fired. It goes on and on. This single mother often gets hit hardest with obligations but life in the US is not much easier for many other people either and a young, single male faces many of the same responsibilities. Even those on the dole get hit for taxes on at least some of what they're given.

The average American is under a lot of stress due to obligations, requirements, and responsibilities. Most manage to eat but almost everyone faces difficulty managing to "manage."



posted on Feb, 1 2012 @ 02:08 PM
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I think what he was meaning was that the very poor need no new provisions to help them because of safety nets already in place? At least that's my assumption .. it'd be a true statement. Who really needs help is the middle class as we rapidly are losing our footing and falling into the "poor class" as there are no safety nets for us.

But I agree it was a stupid comment made by a stupid politician.. Romney is so stereotypical in his actions it's unnerving .. I'm curious if he's an actual Humanbeing? Maybe it's because the GOP thought there was no chance of ever beating a populous President that all the quality candidates refused to run. OR .. perhaps there simply is no quality candidates (from either party) left to run?

I don't think he'd be better or worse than Obama, frankly, I don't see much a difference between the two of them. Frankly when it comes down to the two of them I'd base my vote (if I were voting for either party, I vote 3rd party)

1. I would never vote for a Mormon.
2. I think Michele Obama makes a better first lady (hey.. I'm an avid gardener too)



posted on Feb, 1 2012 @ 02:13 PM
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That's the thing on what people call "poor"

Cell phones,xbox 360s,led tvs and a myriad of other things a "poor person" doesn't have but they do

So should people be concerned for those people? No.



posted on Feb, 1 2012 @ 02:23 PM
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Wow, some highly weird posting going on here. Romney, through charity, donations and investments has done more for the poor than any of you could do in 10 lifetimes.



posted on Feb, 1 2012 @ 02:24 PM
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oh Yeah I completely forgot about that... Didn't he donate like 5 million last year to his church alone?

I guess it only counts as Charity if its someone elses money (liberal mindset)



posted on Feb, 1 2012 @ 02:25 PM
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Originally posted by lucid eyes
Wow, some highly weird posting going on here. Romney, through charity, donations and investments has done more for the poor than any of you could do in 10 lifetimes.


Hey now, Romney might have given millions, but Biden gave 369.00 US dollars last year!


ETA, I gave more than Biden last year!
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posted on Feb, 1 2012 @ 02:55 PM
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I said in my post that I was NOT a Romney supporter. He stated that his focus was on the middle class. Whether or not this is true is of no concern of mine since I won't vote for him.
I was stating that I personally believe that a focus on the middle class is the only way this country will survive and without the middle class being prosperous, the "poor" people will starve since the tax base will be so eroded and no monies will be available for the "Safety net" programs.



posted on Feb, 1 2012 @ 03:10 PM
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Didn't Pelosi sy that the more people unemployed, the more it helps the economy?


There is a twist to that. It helps the economy for 2 reasons I can think of.

1.) People become over qualified because of thee amount of education they have. They spend more money into their education then what they get out of it in the end, and they are basically jobless, yet the government still makes money off them.

2.) People who are under qualified basically get paid less (minimum wage). People who haven't invested money into education, but are willing to work for less.

Catch 22 scenario?

I like to add which is why Ron Paul wants to get rid of the Department of Education. Makes sense no?
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posted on Feb, 1 2012 @ 03:19 PM
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I make less than one thousand dollars a year. I cannot get Medicaid, called axxess here in Arizona because I am a single white male with no children. Quit making generalizations you have limited knowledge about.



posted on Feb, 1 2012 @ 04:22 PM
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Shows how much you know then. Typically the poor in the US do have an obesity problem, and the major contributing factor to it is the highly processed nature of inexpensive food. It isn't that they have it better off than other places. It is that other places don't have cheap processed foods full of filler material. But go ahead let's defend people like good ol Mitt, that drive down wages and drive up commodities so they come out ahead.



posted on Feb, 1 2012 @ 04:28 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
That's the thing on what people call "poor"

Cell phones,xbox 360s,led tvs and a myriad of other things a "poor person" doesn't have but they do

So should people be concerned for those people? No.

How many poor homes have you been in to see this?

Anyone can make blank dumb statements.



posted on Feb, 1 2012 @ 04:30 PM
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Talking about f arrogance to the extreme


And he is the Republican front runner, hey why not put bush in or re-elect Abama if this is the kind of superfiscial trash we can expect for the next four years



posted on Feb, 1 2012 @ 04:39 PM
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Take your pick

www.heritage.org...

www.nationalreview.com...

Have to agree with people making dumb statement's not by me tho.



posted on Feb, 1 2012 @ 05:15 PM
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WOW......Amazing capacity of our politicians to find someone even worse that they guy in charge now.





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