GOP Debate Tonight 1/26/12

Originally posted by OutKast Searcher

Originally posted by antar
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And where will he stand when RP makes it to the Oval Office? LOL, santorum is such a brown noser to both the other candidates.

Come on now...not even Ron Paul believes this. He has all but admitted that he is now just trying to spread his message.

Sell it. You try so hard to discredit Ron Paul. Keep on selling it, every time like clockwork.

Originally posted by SonicInfinity
Does anybody have a time count for each candidate? It's obvious that Paul was 4th and Romney was 1st time-wise, but I'm curious to see who got more time between Santorum or Newt.

Popsmayem did the count tonight, as always on our debate threads.

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posted on 26-1-2012 @ 10:08 PM this post
Final debate times EST. 10:00pm 1/26/2012 jack. fl.
1.Gingrich 23:40
2.Romney 23:15
3.Santorum 19:12
4.Paul 17:49

Romney stomped Gingrich tonight
all the way around.
He will win FL and all 50 delegates.
Paul came in second followed by Newt
and then Santorum, your mileage will vary.
Not a bad debate had its moments
I enjoyed it.

The best line of the night IMO..

Paul, when they were discussing the moon base deal and he mentioned that it would be a good place to send some politicians..

Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
reply to post by eLPresidente

 

He literally won the debate

Yes...Newt won that debate.

Ron Paul did not win the debate...but he may have had the best line.

What don't you understand???

No Newt didn't win the debate, if anything it hurt him with his uneducated responses and attacks. Ron Paul did win the debate, the three stooges said nothing new. They never do. Clearly you seem to be the one that is confused.

reply to post by eLPresidente

Santorum and Gingrich aren't even eligible for 564 delegates.

This is the second time you've said this.

Please detail out where these 564 delegates come from that they aren't eligible for.

You took a quote from Ron Paul's campaign advisor and haven't bothered to fact check it...have you???

Originally posted by Gerizo

Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
reply to post by eLPresidente

 

He literally won the debate

Yes...Newt won that debate.

Ron Paul did not win the debate...but he may have had the best line.

What don't you understand???

No Newt didn't win the debate, if anything it hurt him with his uneducated responses and attacks. Ron Paul did win the debate, the three stooges said nothing new. They never do. Clearly you seem to be the one that is confused.

That comment was about the SC debates.

You shouldn't hop into the middle of a conversation...makes you look silly.

Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
reply to post by MrWendal

 

Even CNN right now is saying the EXACT same thing I said. Strong showing by Mitt, Gingrich losing ground, VERY strong showing from Santorum.. and the best lines of the night goes to Ron Paul.

Yes...Romney and Santorum "won".

Best lines of the night doesn't win debates...or votes.

The only one talking about "winning" is YOU! Here is what I said regarding ALL the Candidates.

Originally posted by MrWendal
Romney is not "winning" this debate. He is making a good showing, but he is not really standing out on any issue for the exception of attacks on Newt. He is not even standing out on the issues.

Newt is on the ropes tonight. A lot of foot in mouth .

Santorum thus far also has made a solid showing.

Paul I think has made the strongest showing of all the Candidates, but I also think he has let some opportunities pass him by.

I did not pick a "winner", I said who I believed made a good showing based on the debate. I would bet my motorcycle right now that if I had ignored Paul's performance or said I thought Paul did not do well, YOU would starring my post and agreeing with me 100%.

Even the talking heads on TV are saying the same thing I have said, except they are ignoring Ron Paul. They are praising Mitt, but if you notice there is no praise on this issues. They are praising his attacks on Newt!!

If you want my "prediction", Mitt will remain steady in the polls. Newt will lose votes, Santorum and Paul both will gain from Newt's lost ground.

I do not pick "winners" because this is not a sporting event.

Originally posted by antar
I think that they are all trying to understand why Dr Paul is so popular and changing their course to accommodate what it is the people find so attractive about RP and his message.

That's because the three stooges are in total disconnect from the American people that Paul actually listens to.

They only know elbow rubbing with like ilk of power hungry fat wallet in-crowd bozos. JMOHO

I am sure that most of us each saw the debate in our own way and have our own opinions on how it played out ...

Personally I love the diversity here... much better than hanging around all like minded individuals

Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
reply to post by eLPresidente

 

Santorum and Gingrich aren't even eligible for 564 delegates.

This is the second time you've said this.

Please detail out where these 564 delegates come from that they aren't eligible for.

You took a quote from Ron Paul's campaign advisor and haven't bothered to fact check it...have you???

"GOP rivals have missed ballot deadlines in one or more states, they'll be unable to amass enough delegates to keep their campaigns going."

www.politico.com...

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Yes and I dread the democratic debates too... check this out!

Originally posted by antar
reply to post by Destinyone

 

Yes and I dread the democratic debates too... check this out!

Awesome image.

Do you have a link for a larger sized version?

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You will have to resize it for the forum, but here you go, I will delete in in a couple minutes as the bandwidth is too much...

Edit to reduce size of previous picture...

Originally posted by squidboy

Originally posted by Southern Guardian
you can simply 'skip' a state like Florida and be serious about the nomination.....

Skip a state? He's not skipping the state,

Yes he is still on the ballot, this was not what I was implying in my analysis.

where it's highly unlikely that he'll win.

You'll get no sympathy from the Florida delegates and GOP voters if this is the excuse for him coming 4th or 3rd in this race.

If a voter needs to be swayed in the weeks before their caucus vote,

This is another thing, he's saying he'll be focusing on caucus votes, caucuses make up half of the States in these primaries. Paul needs to demonstrate that he can win a variety of GOP voters and a variety of States, not just a segment or two of the voter electorate in a particular State. So far Paul is the only candidate in the race who hasn't won a State, and he looks to lose badly in Florida as well. It is becoming more and more clear that he isn't focusing on the nomination any longer.

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I personally enjoyed his comment poking fun at all of the terrorism propaganda and fear that we see nowadays when he said something like this: "Americans don't think there's a Jihadist hiding under their bed each night"

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I agree. Regardless of the arguments in this topic, argument and debate, while slowing down the ability to quickly come to a decsion, is necessary to help protect against Tyranny. That is why we were not set up as a democracy, but a democratic-republic. It protects us from mob rule, which is why outkast searcher's(sp?). is an incredably valuable member in the discussion, and a necessary safe gaurd from us all just following the Paul crowed because everyone else is. Instead we choose to support him because to some level we agree with him, but only after careful consideration, which is how I think it should be when deciding who you are going to support. Sometimes I think, at least when I look at myself, that the support of an idea and the reaction towards things I do not always agree with, can sometimes blind a person to a balanced view. Regardless of the accuracy of the statements from either side, it forces you to check yourself and have to double check what you are saying and what they are saying to make sure that we are getting to some form of truth. Of course facts, by themselves are not argumentative, but the interpritation of them, and the inferences made from them, are what allow us to learn and get closer to some ideal, or truth or whatever.
However I am pretty sure I am just rambling, while anyone reading this is probably like no crap* sherlock, or hello captain obvious. haha ^.^

*(replace with appropriate substitution)

They are actually talking respectably about RP on cnn right now. They will discuss RP after this break.

Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
reply to post by eLPresidente

 

I believe in the free market, I've used the internet as a great example of the closest to free market system as possible & for some reason you want to talk about child porn like its a problem of the internet and not the issue of environmental conditioning. SMART.

LOL, the internet is not a free market.

It is regulated like the real world economy.


Please explain to me how the internet is it's own independent "free market".



And yes...you are deflecting....because you know you have no argument against working conditions in a free market.

Yet the poorest working condition is slavery, federal reserve notes? taxes? debt issues? anybody?



Like I said before, there is nothing to argue, you take an era of time, right after the industrial revolution where the market didn't have enough time to grow before centralization came into play, then you criticize it like its had time to progress.

But at the same time, you refuse to acknowledge the failure of your highly regulated centralized and now fascist government which has had over 100 years to progress but has only dwindled, at a rapid pace, I might add. Look at how much damage they did in the last 10 years alone.

But no, you won't acknowledge it because you claim you live in the real world and read fictional books like The Jungle and try to pass it off as reality.

reply to post by antar

Yes and I dread the democratic debates too... check this out!

What? Do you mean debates for the 2012 Democratic Party nomination? Um, hate to break it to you, but you're safe until sometime in 2015-2016 for those.....

And in your photo......Abraham Lincoln appears prominently. He was a member of the "Republican" party back then....although, that version of "Republican" party bears scant resemblance to the right-wing neo-con war-mongering bought-and-paid-for politicians that dominate that mindset of today.....

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Great post... We should strive to get more folks that see it this way as our elected in DC, be they Left or Right leaning, as long as they are willing to talk to each other and try to find common ground, I think the country would be in much better hands than it has been for decades..

Question is, have the people had enough of the status quo to be willing to clean house?