reply to post by cloudyday
Yes, I am talking about theosis.
"Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many
wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity." Belief isn't sufficient, the people
rejected in this passage obviously believe, but they don't actually know the Lord.
"I am the vine, ye [are] the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.
If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast [them] into the fire, and they are
. If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you. Herein is my Father glorified,
that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples. As the Father hath loved me, so have I loved you: continue ye in my love. If ye keep my
commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
Here is shown what it means to have faith, to truly love God, to know Him. If you know God and love him then you are granted sonship by adoption and
thus "become partakers of the divine nature". It is essential that you do this here so that others may "see your light". As St. Seraphim of Sarov
said, "Acquire the Spirit of Peace thousands around you will be saved". Christ also says "the night is coming in which no work can be done", so we
have to be prepared to meet the Lord. Most of the apocalyptic parables deal with being watchful and being ready to meet God face to face.
The importance of knowing God now is further spelled out later in the chapter:
"If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before [it hated] you. If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not
of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you. Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not
greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also. But all these
things will they do unto you for my name's sake, because they know not him
that sent me."
God is Love, to abide in his Word is to abide in true Love of all things. Evil is to not know God; that is to be ignorant of Love (and I'm not saying
that atheists or those without experiential faith are entirely ignorant of God, for "His law is written on the hearts of all men"). Adam and Eve lived
in bliss together with God, each other, and all creation (according to tradition, they were vegetarian) . Go back to Genesis and look at how things
change when they cut themselves off from God, look at how their relationship with Him changes, how their relationship with each other changes. Genesis
compared to the rest of the OT is pretty tame, notice how people grow progressively worse. Genesis has some bad parts, but has alot of innocence;
Exodus gets worse but still has that hope, and by the time you get to Judges, it's appalling. Everyone gets progressively worse until Samuel and
David, and David still has loads of problems. Why then despite all of David's failings, sins, and evil deeds does God call him "a man after My own
heart"? Because he tries, he fails, he repents, he gets up again, and seeks the Lord above all things.
Psalm 36 "O continue thy lovingkindness unto them that know
thee; and thy righteousness to the upright in heart."
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