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“Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world.” (1John 4:1)
Originally posted by 547000
reply to post by autowrench
Speaking in tongues means speaking and being heard in a person's native tongue. Speaking some made up gibberish is not speaking in tongues. Charismatic Christianity is strange voodoo to me.edit on 15-1-2012 by 547000 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
Careful OP, blasphmey of and slandering the Holy Spirit is the one sin that Jesus will not forgive. I wouldn't cross that line if i were you. The Sanhedrin accused Jesus of being possessed by an unclean spirit and damned themselves for it.
The figures of metaphor chosen by St. John show that he knew the traditionary characteristics (largely derived from India) of these reptilian ogres, and counted on the public's familiarity with them. No doubt he had often heard or read dozens of legends about them--such tales, for example, as the following one recounted in the long story about Job by Thal'labi, who died in 1035 A.D. It is a part of the Book of the Stories of the Poets, from which it was quoted into the American Journal of Semitic Languages (vol. 13, p. 145). God is haranguing the fretful job: "Where wast thou in the day when I formed the dragon? His food is in the sea and his dwelling in the air; his eyes flash fire; his ears are like the bow of the clouds, there pours forth from them flame as though he were a whirling wind-column of dust; his belly burns and his breath flames forth in hot coals like unto rocks; it is as though the clash of his teeth were sounds of thunder and the glance of his eye were the flashing of lightning; armies pass him while he is lying; nothing terrifies him; in him there is no joint . . . he destroys all that by which he passes." The rendering by the English word 'dragon' in the authorized version of the Bible of both the two similar words tan and thanin is explained by Canon Tristram in his authentic Natural History of the Bible. "Tan," he announces, "is always used in the plural for some creature inhabiting desert places, frequently coupled with the ostrich and wild beasts." The Prophets and Psalmist abound in such references, and hear their cries from the most desolate haunts they are able to picture to their minds. "I will make a wailing like the dragons, and mourning as the ostriches," exclaims Micah, remembering nocturnal voices that had echoed in the desert from ghostly ruins and perilous wastes--voices of real animals such as jackals, whose mournful howlings disturb the nervous and superstitious, or owls, always troublesome to timorous souls. The writer of the article 'Dragon' in the Jewish Cyclopedia informs us that in the Septuagint version the word signifies a dangerous monster whose bite is poisonous. This accords with the Hindoo definition of a naga, which designates a venomous snake alone, a cobra. Such monsters must be imagined, says this Hebrew commentator, as of composite but snake-like form, and always as at home in water, even in the waves of the sea (Psalms 48: 7), where they were created by God with the fishes. "In the beginning of things YHWH overpowered them in creating the world. It is clear that this story, which is found only in fragments in the 0. T., was originally a myth representing God's victory over the seas."
Originally posted by autowrench
As I stated in the above post, I sincerely ask out Christian members, with much respect, to please refrain from personal insults, name calling, or off topic replies. This is but a further adventure deep into Biblical Lore, and Dogmatic Belief Systems practices by the modern Church. I invite intelligent responses, and debate on this controversial subject matter.
Isaiah 27 1In that day the LORD with his sore and great and strong sword shall punish leviathan the piercing serpent, even leviathan that crooked serpent; and He shall slay the dragon that is in the sea.
You can test any spirit to see if it is the holy spirit. If it is not of love and peace then it is not the holy spirit...
You introduced the title, calling the Holy Spirit a demon, then you followed on to talking about snakes and leviathan and then on to Reptilians. You have stated leviathan is Yaweh, implying that you believe the ancient Hebrews worshiped a giant sea beast.
My brother who just told me to say that, never uses or references the Bible in order to explain his belief. Because to him, it is fiction, like Tom Sawyer.
The fact that EL is in the name, Israel should be a good indication that they originally believed in El, before they believed in YHWH, and also Exodus says that El was first. YHWH would be an introduction from the Midianites who were trading partners to the south, in Midia which is in north-west Arabia, and compares with the priest, Jethro who Moses was related to by marriage.
Israelite religion accept the idea that Yahweh and El were originally different Gods; and enemies of each other, but over time, one or more groups of Yahweh-worshipers blended with one or more groups of El-worshipers to become “Israel,” and within this group, El and Yahweh gradually came to be recognized as the same deity.