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If 911 is viewed as a crime instead of a terrorist attack, it becomes clear...

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posted on Jan, 23 2012 @ 08:09 PM
reply to post by ThinkB4uSpeak

I was once one of those people who had trouble admitting that the almighty U.S government would allow itself to get infiltrated and commit one of the biggest crimes of all time.

I was in such denial that I ridiculed anyone who mentioned certain things, I was so bad I could have been considered a "shill". Thankfully I eventually decided to accept the facts. It's been a non stop quest for the truth ever since.

There is nothing more difficult than taking that first step that leads you to realizing most of what you were told is a complete lie. It's enough to turn your whole world upside down if you're not prepared for it .


posted on Jan, 24 2012 @ 04:05 AM

Zionism 9/11 - Make the link

It is the year 2012 and most people in the world are willing to accept that smoking is unhealthy.

It is hard to believe but there was a time when that was not true and people would argue as aggressively in favor of smoking as the "9/11 Deniers" now argue that the 9/11 official story is reasonable.

Breathing into the lungs smoke from any burning substance is unhealthy and the official story of 9/11 does not make sense.


It is the year 2012 and anyone who still believes in the official story of 9/11 falls into one of these categories.

1. They have not looked into any of the details.
2. They have not spent any time thinking about the big picture.
3. They do not have the education or experience to make sense of the facts available.
4. As CE suggested, they can not accept the fact that enemy is sometimes people they trust.
5. They are 'Packer fans' - they get with a team and stick with that team no matter what.
6. Two or more of the above.

How does Zionism fit into the real 9/11 story?

Well, we are all aware of the billions the tobacco industry has spent to convince us to smoke or perhaps at this point to not make tobacco products illegal.

If it is not billions then it is at least 100's of millions that have been spent to convince us (mainly the English speaking world) that Zionism is not pure evil.

Zionism is pure evil, and just like the 9/11 official story if you don't believe Zionism is pure evil then...

1. You have not looked into the detailed history of Zionism.
2. You have not looked at the big picture of Zionism in the 20th century.
3. You do not have the education or experience to make sense of the facts that condemn Zionism.
4. You can not accept the fact that the enemy is sometimes people you trust.
5. You are a 'Zionist' - you are with the team and you stick with the team no matter what.
6. Two or more of the above.

The psychological profile is the same for both pro-Zionists and 9/11 official story supporters.

That explains exactly why the "9/11 Deniers" have called me a Nazi or Jew Hater a few dozen times.


The big picture is - Zionists totally control Congress and the administration. No group in the US has even a fraction of the power the Zionists have.

Zionists, the single group that has the power to pull off something on the scale of 9/11 .
Zionists, the single group that has the power to cover up something on the scale of 9/11 .

The Zionsts are "the US Government." So when someone says "9/11 was an inside job", "the Government did 9/11" they are right but regular Americans do not run the US government, Zionists do.


No one, not even Alan Dershowitz, will argue with what I just wrote for you here because in doing so they unintentionally expose the power of Zionism. That is why you will not see an argument to this post but you will see name calling or obfuscation.

Zionism 9/11 - Make the link

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posted on Jan, 24 2012 @ 04:17 AM
It is a very good thing the young man did not not say, "Zionists pulled off 9/11."

They probably would have killed him.

Please pay attention to what Alan Dershowitz says about the 9/11 Commission and tell me what you think of Zionist power to cover up the crimes of 9/11.

posted on Jan, 24 2012 @ 11:23 AM

Originally posted by BRAVO949

It is a very good thing the young man did not not say, "Zionists pulled off 9/11."

You can't make this assumption. This is your own, private "belief" and in fact, it is no more a better belief system than what you are claiming the government has.

There is amble reason to believe, that during the time where the center of the WTC was closed, that they actually rigged the columns. But this doesn't implicate Israel, nor even zionism as such. It is simply the owner of the building, putting up security mechanism and planning the controlled demolition of his building.

In fact, you might even argue, that the fact that those charges were there, saved lives ... IFF the building had fallen sideways, it would have caused enormous collateral damage in New York. So, your way of implicating Zionism and Israel here, is not very productive.

I don't like zionism, but just because I don't like a religion that is awaiting their Messiah, and this Messiah just happens to be some guy who is more or less, going to kill off the rest of the world, does not mean that they are the center of all conspiracy in the Universe. Christians believe Jesus will return, and the earth will turn into a living hell on earth. That is just about as bad, as Zionism. Although you don't have the "Messiah" part, you still have the "Devil" part. In both religions, only the "few selected" will be saved ... whereas in Judaism, those few can only be of jewish origin, while in christianity they must believe in Jesus. ALL religions agree, that those who are "saved" are very few ... and all the multitude will die. That includes ME and YOU dude ...

So, in reality ... you could just as well argue that "Christianity as a whole" is behind the attack, as saying it's zionism or judaism.

You are making connections, that aren't justifiable.

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posted on Jan, 24 2012 @ 02:07 PM
Well bjarneorn,

I don't want to argue with you because you are not in anyway a "9/11 Denier".

However, you mentioned all of those religious details as if I had used them as a justification for the criminal act of 9/11. I didn't, though.

You might see Israel as a religious entity. I don't.

Israel "hides" behind religion when it is convenient to do so, not because the leaders are religious.

Israel shoves religious nuts out into the settlements because it is convenient to do so, not because the leaders are religious.

Israel appeals to American Christians and a handful of Christians around the world because it is convenient to do so, not because the leaders are religious.

Israel is not a religious entity.

Israel is a criminal enterprise.

9/11 was a criminal act that was a colossal benefit to Israel.

Bjarn - Zionists cover up 9/11. That is a pure fact.

Why would Zionists cover up the crime of 9/11 if they did not have a hand in it?

posted on Jan, 24 2012 @ 07:24 PM
The following small extracts is part of a message given to mankind from the transcendental world.
Please read carefully:

All warfare is against God's Will and is in conflict with the laws of the Light,, and it benefits neither one nor the other warring nation to call upon God's assistance as supreme war lord; any supplication to God to bless the armaments or to bless the armies, so that under His leadership they may gain victory over their opponents, is therefore a blasphemous prayer.

Any conception of God as war lord or war leader must be rooted out, since all bloodshed, all destruction, all subversion is completely irreconcilable with the nature of God. Again and again God has sought to lead human beings to a complete understanding of love for their neighbours and respect for all that belongs to them. Time and again ever since the dawn of history God's emissaries have proclaimed to human beings: "You shall not kill, nor take by force, nor rob, nor plunder!" But so far the appeal has been in vain, human beings have not yet been able to free themselves from the primal urge of brutish self-assertion through violence to the detriment of their fellow human beings. So long as the individual members of the nations of the world do not unite and strive toward mutual peace and forbearance, so long as human beings cannot with complete faith in God's Fatherliness and Justice place everything in His hand and with trust submit to His leadership, so long as the will of the many is not one with His Will, so long can bloodshed, violence and war not cease, and so long can the hope for peace not be victorious on Earth.

Human beings must overcome the influence of Darkness, overcome hatred, curses, envy and lust for power through belief in God's existence and by trusting His guidance, rather than through prayers for help to crush their enemies and opponents by acts of violence for God never hears and never answers such prayers.

If it could be conceived that an entire people were united in complete trust in God and in the absolute certitude that no evil arising from ambitious, envious or rapacious neighbours could befall them, then even the most evil of designs would fall to the ground, since it would be lost on so unanimous and complete a faith. But where can such a people be found? Humanity is still in its infancy, and centuries or millennia may pass before full understanding of such an unshakeable relationship of trust between God and human beings can be attained.

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posted on Jan, 24 2012 @ 07:49 PM

Thus, all warfare is rooted in Darkness and is brought about by the mutual intolerance of the various nations, which in turn can be attributed to the lust for power of the leaders and the rulers. If the human will for evil thus calls forth fighting and destruction and a war begins, the nation that initiates the hostilities must bear the responsibility for the war of aggression as well as for the war of defence forced upon the other nation and its allies, regardless of the forms that the war may take. And so long as the attacked nation limits itself to the defence of its country, of its rights, the aggressor will continue to be in the wrong. But the moment the defender extends the hostilities to the territory of the aggressor in order to attack rather than to defend, both sides must share the responsibility for whatever takes place from the moment the border into enemy territory is crossed. (The same laws apply if the battles are fought at sea or in the air).
The victory or defeat of the warring parties can in no way be attributed to God. Never does He take part in the hostilities, neither on the side of the aggressor nor on the side of the defender. Only prayers for help to restore peace will be heard by God, but His many and persistent attempts to speak to the leaders as their "conscience" are in most cases rejected.
The victorious party defeats its adversary by virtue of numerical or strategic superiority or the like, or because of the people's common hatred of the enemy and the people's common will to win; but victory is never gained with the help of God.
Any person - civilian or military - who praises and glorifies war in writing or in speech,, instead of evoking aversion to this deed of Darkness and enlightening his fellow human beings on the degradation and brutishness of war, is himself placing a heavy burden of responsibility on his shoulders and must, having ended his earthly life, render a detailed account to God of the motivations for his actions.
Even though human beings wage war among themselves, and even though God does not hear their prayers for victory, He never loses sight of them, but seeks either directly or through the disincarnated Youngest to awaken remorse among the leaders, just as He tries in many ways to instil in them an awareness of the injustice and the abuse of power of which they are guilty, so as to bring about a pact of peace before one of the parties succumbs to the superior force; but in the vast majority of cases also these attempts are rejected by human beings.

Those posters in this forum who feel the need to defend usa's and israel's war preparations, should rethink their reasons for doing so in order to avoid a rather unpleasant future for themselves!


posted on Jan, 25 2012 @ 05:14 AM

Originally posted by djeminy

Those posters in this forum who feel the need to defend usa's and israel's war preparations, should rethink their reasons for doing so in order to avoid a rather unpleasant future for themselves!


The war that these preparations are being made for is intended to draw in all the allies of the different parties. These forces are expected to fight to exhaustion whereupon a great cry will go out for deliverance. The plea for a One World Government is intended to be answered with "Here's one I prepared earlier!"

The USA and Israel are supposed to be sacrificed to bring this about. An unpleasant future indeed.

posted on Jan, 25 2012 @ 05:43 AM
They might even call it "righteous violence"!

Please check out this man's insane views compared to the foregoing:


posted on Jan, 25 2012 @ 08:33 AM
But also check out the views of this very wise and intelligent guy who, in these troubled times, seems like being "heaven send"!


posted on Jan, 27 2012 @ 12:50 PM
Here is a video of an Israeli man speaking English with a Hebrew accent.

You can hear exactly the same vowels sounds, exactly the same consonants and the general "shape" of the Hebrew accent in English.

Zionism is the problem

posted on Feb, 11 2012 @ 06:55 AM
Soo what does that tell us then?

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