This thread has turned into a I HATE MUSLIMS thread....
Good day..

Originally posted by boymonkey74
This thread has turned into a I HATE MUSLIMS thread....

Stating facts isn't hate speech ... no matter how much the PC crowd tries to say it is. You bailed out before you could back up your statement that all religions have the same terrorist problems that Islam has.

Originally posted by catwhoknowsplusone
Can I ask you Muslim proponents - can you give me one instance where any religion kills innocent people - apart from Ireland a long time ago.

What I am saying is this - if you want to go to war, go and kill like-minded people - leave the civilians alone.

And what I am truly saying is this - if you want to keep fighting your stupid and destructive wars - GO AWAY FROM INNOCENTS!

The US army killing innocent Muslims. The Christian Nazi's killing innocent Jews. There are many more if you go back in history enough. Crusades, The Colonial Conquests, Rwanda Genocide 1994, the Congolese genocide etc etc. It's really not got to do with religion. Every religion has caused wars.

Originally posted by GLaDOS
The US army killing innocent Muslims.

Not because they are muslim. That's a product of a political war as far as the US is concerned.
Not a religious war. As for the Crusades ... that was hundreds and hundreds of years ago.
Christianity has evolved since then. And secular laws hold down any
fundamentalist extremists that might try to get out of hand.
Islam doesn't have secular laws to help them evolve ... and in fact
most in Islam (I gave some stats in the previous page) WANT Sharia law.
That's going backwards .. not forwards.

Well at least he didn't hijack a plane,
or run into a wal-mart with a suicide bomb
strapped to his chest. What a guy....

Originally posted by popsmayhem
This particular story happens to be a muslim honor killing,

'cording to the christian anti-muslim blog its posted on......

given that the shooter is dead - how the hell does anyone know? all i see is people jumping on the hate bandwagon 'cuz they can.

Originally posted by popsmayhem
The most important thing here that is being debated is the reasoning* behind the murder. Why it happened? Because it was a muslim honor killing*, that is the reason this guy hacks up the wife and kid's and hacked up the kid's and wife.

Oh! Whoa! How convenient - - that you (and others) can put a label on why one man "snapped".

Your religious prejudice is showing. Should we bring up Jim Jones? How about Andrea Yates?

This is so typical. Kind of like "man kills" vs "black man kills".

How often is religion mentioned when a man kills his family? There have been numerous stories in the news about a man killing his family. Percentage wise - - most were probably Christian.

I live 20 minutes from grapevine.

The local news here, reported that the bodies were found surrounded by opened Christmas presents. Did the entire family convert to Christianity? That just seems strange to me. To top that off, the suspect was dressed as Santa Claus? More weirdness there.

I guess my question is, was it that easy for the entire family to convert, or at the very least embrace the Christmas tradition of opening gifts on the 25th? Did the father alienate the family so much that they shunned Islamic tradition within their own home?

I mean with no witnesses and no written manifesto, how can the authorities be so certain it was an "honor killing" ...what stupid term that is, "honor killing". Who the hell came up with that language? I've heard of the Japanese commiting "honor suicide", but murder is just that, murder. No honor in murder.

Honor killings are a disgrace and result in a complete loss of honor for whatever culture or religion that person represents.

The concept of 'honor killings' should be wiped off the face of the planet.

The point in the main post was the fact that MEDIA IS PURPOSELY CENSORING STORIES. It appears they censor stories that are in a certain category to manipulate the public. By doing this, CNN and other news agencies have become SINISTER.

One thing I see people bring up when it comes to this sort of thing is the "Not all Muslims are extreme" argument. You can say that about any religion or race of people, that's taking the easy way out IMO. For the sake of this discussion, since it is about Muslims, I'll use Muslims as an example. You can apply this reasoning to anyone though.

True, not all Muslims are extreme. Only the ones that have singled out and live by the extreme passages of the Qaran are. But that's no excuse for the peaceful faction to sit back and watch violence like this happen and not do anything about it. Violence like this is a problem that needs a solution. And if you're not a part of the solution you're a part of the problem.

Why would a peaceful Muslim sit back and defend him/herself from the verbal attacks people make about their violent counterparts and not do anything to change the behaviour of their violent counterparts? And don't tell me they can't. Violent or peaceul, they're sill ALL Muslims. Do they ENJOY sitting back and pointing their finger at someone else? Someone whom they say is still one of them because of their religiouds views?

By not doing anything about the problem that you say YOU'RE not a part of, you're silently advocating it IMO.

its funny... no one wants to comment on the fact that its only the christian blog in the op that refers to this as an honour killing - instead more folks just wanna jump on the bandwagon.

I will repeat MOSSAD, working with the CIA, creates most terrorist groups. MOSSAD! Odd one eh? Make sense to you?

When when when is everyone going to see clearly what this world is run like, and how much they profit and enjoy even, peoples deaths, and what sickness is going on. THen, we can all grab our Bullhorns and march to the representatives offices and not leave until its all CHANGED.