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Originally posted by HellsTruant
Originally posted by steveknows
Also I don't see coalition troops walking into crowds of people and exploding a bomb. I also don't see coalition troops dressed in civilian clothing pretending to be part of that society while at the same time planning to kill innocent men women and children in that society.
2001-2003 : The Project on Defense Alternatives estimated that in a 3-month period between October 7, 2001 and January 1, 2002, at least 1,000-1,300 civilians were directly killed by the U.S.-led aerial bombing campaign, and that by mid-January 2002, at least 3,200 more Afghans had died of "starvation, exposure, associated illnesses, or injury sustained while in flight from war zones", as a result of the U.S. war and airstrikes.
The Los Angeles Times found that in a 5-month period from October 7, 2001 to February 28, 2002, there were between 1,067 and 1,201 civilian deaths from the bombing campaign reported in U.S., British, and Pakistani newspapers and international wire services.
A 2002 analysis by The Guardian estimated that as many as 20,000 Afghans died in 2001 as an indirect result of the initial U.S. airstrikes and ground invasion.
Professor Marc W. Herold of the University of New Hampshire estimated that in the 20-month period between October 7, 2001 and June 3, 2003, at least 3,100 to 3,600 civilians were directly killed by U.S.-led forces.
2005: Professor Marc W. Herold of the University of New Hampshire estimated at least 408-478 Afghan civilians were directly killed by U.S./NATO actions.
2006:Human Rights Watch estimated at least 230 Afghan civilians were killed by US or NATO attacks in 2006: 116 by airstrikes and 114 by ground fire.
Professor Marc W. Herold of the University of New Hampshire estimated at least 653-769 Afghan civilians were directly killed by U.S./NATO actions.
2007:Human Rights Watch estimated at least 434 Afghan civilians were killed by US or NATO attacks in 2007: 321 by airstrikes and 113 by ground fire. Another 57 civilians were killed in crossfire, and 192 died under unclear circumstances.
Professor Marc W. Herold of the University of New Hampshire estimated at least 1,010-1,297 Afghan civilians were directly killed by U.S./NATO actions.
2008:The Afghanistan Rights Monitor(ARM) estimated that over 1,620 civilians were killed by U.S.-led military forces in 2008, including 680 killed in airstrikes. ARM also estimated that military operations by US-led NATO and coalition forces caused at least 2,800 injuries and displaced 80,000 people from their homes.
Professor Marc W. Herold of the University of New Hampshire estimated at least 864-1,017 Afghan civilians were directly killed by U.S./NATO foreign forces in 2008
2009:The UN Assistance Mission in Afghanistan (UNAMA) attributed 596 Afghan civilian deaths as having been caused by international-led military forces in 2009, representing about a quarter of the 2,412 Afghan civilian deaths it recorded as having been caused by the war in 2009
2010:The UN Assistance Mission in Afghanistan (UNAMA) and the Afghanistan Independent Human Rights Commission (AIHRC) attributed 440 Afghan civilian deaths as having been caused by U.S.-led military forces in 2010
2011:The UN Assistance Mission in Afghanistan (UNAMA) and the Afghanistan Independent Human Rights Commission (AIHRC) attributed 207 Afghan civilian deaths as having been caused by U.S.-led military forces in the first six months of 2011
Originally posted by DbriefedYou'll find the family came from Iran,
Originally posted by My.mind.is.mine
Originally posted by MisterBurns
Not sure about the honour killings, at least the murderer is dead and if he was religious, mighty dissapointed right now.
I was watching a program on FBI versus American bread muslims who turned to 'jihad' and wanted to fight Americans under the belief that the west wanted to destroy the religion.
Well, I beleive that if Christians wanted to burn witches nowadays this too would be illegal as it is against the human rights of witches.
The only thing the civilised world wants is human rights, and if your religion abuses those rights then there is a problem. If you beleive that honour killings, stoning to death of adulterers and other various barbaric acts against hmanity are OK because Allah says so, then you tkae that beleif to a country whose justice system is based on human rights and democracy and rights to a fair trial, then there is going to be some issues.
Stop thinking we want to eradicate Muslims, we just dont want your barbaric (or any religions) medievil actions in the 21st Century.
Religion has nothing to do with going over the edge. You don't seem to have used any facts while formulating your statement. Not only is murder forbidden, but so is suicide. 0.o