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Originally posted by Tindalos2013
I have mixed feelings about the police (in the U.K.) becase on the one had they are needed to deal with crime incidents as seen on Crime Watch UK and other similar shows but at the same time I have been stopped and asked questions about who I am, where I live, where I have been/going, what I am doing etc. for no particular reason. Sure I like to take early morning walks (2-4am) into town and back just for the exercise and I find it amusing to answer their questions only to have them get all snarky with me.
Me. (Sitting on a park bench, police car pulls up a two Police Officers get out)
1st PO. What are you doing?
Me. I am looking at the stars and enjoying the quiet of the night.
1st PO. What your name?
Me. Scully Tindalos
1st PO. Is that your real name? Sounds made up. (Tells me to stand up and empty my pockets)
2nd PO. Why have you got two mobile phones?
Me. I always like to have a spare just in case (note I had a 3rd phone that I didnt reveal)
1st PO. Calls in on radio to check if I am 'known' to the police.
2nd PO looks inside my tobbaco case (for evidence of illegal drugs probably) Why have you got a small torch?
Me. It comes in handy for illuminating the dark when I walk through parks and fields at night.
(I tell them where I live etc)
2nd PO. Why are you smiling? I dont like it, makes me think you are getting one over on me.
Me. I sit back down on the bench.
1st PO tells me to stand back up.
Me. Who are you? Can I see both of your ID's please. (they have to comply with this request)
2nd PO. You shouldnt be wandering around at this time of the morning, you might be looking for cars to steal or breaking into houses.
Me. I can walk around at any time I feel like regardless of what you might think. Can I go now?
Originally posted by tothetenthpower
reply to post by theovermensch
I believe there is.
There is certainly a mentality among law enforcement that needs to be discouraged and we need to re-train police to understand their rights and limitations as well as our own.
A lot of the time unfortunetly police are put in situations where thinking will get you killed. There are things we the people need to work on, and things that our police services must work on.
Text Cops arguing against their having/owning/carrying guns: "If you lawfully have a gun in your home, that doesn't mean it can't ultimately become a threat," Hartman said. "If your home is burglarized and the gun is stolen, then that gun floats from one criminal activity to another throughout the community. That's why it's important that we accept these guns from anyone, no questions asked." link Stats indicating police are many times more prone to violence, self-medication, and emotional instability than non-cops: Domestic violence is 2 to 4 times more common in police families than in the general population. In two separate studies, 40% of police officers self-report that they have used violence against their domestic partners within the last year. In the general population, it's estimated that domestic violence occurs in about 10% of families. www.purpleberets.org... Research has revealed a strong connection between occupational stress and alcohol and drug abuse, but also a strong sub-cultural more among police officers that encourages drinking both for social and stress-reduction purposes. Alcohol consumption among police officers is also correlated with officer suicides and domestic violence, and many departments are beginning to recognize the liability in allowing this problem to go untreated. milestonegroupnj.com... Police mortality studies have demonstrated that officers are afflicted with stress-related disease at a higher rate than the general population. www.jimstonjournal.com... The joke is that we elevate them above everyone else while the punchline is that they're ticking time-bombs comparatively far more broken and sick than everyone else.
Text As a working class guy in an average area of the UK, I can safely say i've never heard of an incident of police heavy handed ness or brutality - other than perhaps a handful of occasions
Text What if I lived in a remote farmhouse, living a simple life and an armed group came along one day, shot my family and kicked me out - who could I go to? Why would someone that way inclined NOT do it, if there was no police, no punishment?
Originally posted by ComeFindMeWhy would someone that way inclined NOT do it, if there was no police, no punishment?