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Astonishingly, the tragedy of Titanic was anticipated in stories written before the ship set sail. The most striking is “The Sinking of a Modern Liner” written in 1886 by W.T. Stead, the famous English journalist and spiritualist. By a macabre coincidence, Stead went down with Titanic. In his story, a liner leaves Liverpool, picks up passengers and mailbags in Queenstown and on its journey to New York is in a collision. There are too few lifeboats, panic ensues and the Captain brandishes a revolver to keep steerage passengers from storming the lifeboat deck.
“The White Ghost of Disaster” by the American writer Mayn Clew Garnett was published just before Titanic left Southampton. Garnett’s liner is the same length as Titanic and travels at the real ship’s exact speed before it ploughs into an iceberg which the look-out has seen too late.
In “The Ship’s Run” (1908) by the Irish detective writer, M. McDonnell Bodkin, RMS Titanic of the Blue Star Line (precisely half the tonnage of the real Titanic), steams from New York to Queenstown with gamblers among its passengers, in the same way as the real ship..
Originally posted by BobLoblaw84
reply to post by blocula
Wouldn't survivors accounts of the event have listed some sort of explosion if this had been the case?
Originally posted by scotsdavy1
this place would have a conspiracy if someone went to the toilet and couldn`t pee!
for goodness sake, think before you open another one.
Originally posted by CosmicWaterGate
reply to post by blocula
... I Can RV-SEE... that there was a low amount of 'tryptophane'...
In Ur 'Heritage' turkey... U-B AWOKEN ONE
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All the wealthy and powerful men the Jesuits wanted to get rid of were invited to take the cruise. Three of the richest and most important of these were Benjamin Guggenheim, Isador Strauss, the head of Macy’s Department Stores, and John Jacob Astor, probably the wealthiest man in the world. Their total wealth, at that time, using dollar values of their day was more than 500 million dollars. Today that amount of money would be worth nearly eleven billion dollars. These three men were coaxed and encouraged to board the floating palace. They had to be destroyed because the Jesuits knew they would use their wealth and influence to oppose a Federal Reserve Bank as well as the various wars that were being planned.
It can also be mentioned that J.P. Morgan, the individual contracted to build the Titanic was scheduled to be on the maiden voyage, but canceled.
Supporters of the idea that the Titanic shipwreck was orchestrated carefully, a Jesuit tempore co-adjutor was picked to captain the ship, a man that would do anything for the order and God’s will; Captain Edward Smith. Quite possibly the most experienced captain of the time, Smith had navigated the waters of the Atlantic for 26 years, a master of the icy waters that the Titanic would be sailing. He was a Jesuit and worked for J.P. Morgan. As National Geographic stated in their 1986 documentary entitilted ‘The Secrets of the Titanic,’ “Anyone could be a Jesuit and their identity not be known.”
And this very possible German sinking of the Titanic and the tragic loss of many innocent lives,was kept a closely guarded secret,to prevent what would have erupted into a major War,only 2 years before the start of World War-1 and so the story given to the public of the Titanic striking an iceberg and then sinking was a cover story that has lingered on through the years...
Maybe it looks folded in after laying at the bottom of the ocean for 100 years or so and decaying and collapsing in on itself...
Originally posted by Spruk
reply to post by blocula
Sadly the 'quick' google search for the images has become somewhat fruitless. However the last images i saw from the Russian sub(s) to visit the titanic sinking. It showed the damage as 'folded' in, which is consistant with a strike (or piercing) on the hull. If it was hit by a torp it would be exploded in (LARGE difference).
Folded in - Would be described as a 'gash', similar to when you cut yourself on a tree branch, one part of the skin is depressed in, and there would be a raised section on the other side, which would result in the skin (or hull in this instance) being folded in.
Exploded in - Explosives back in 1912, especially in torpedos where crude, if it was exploded in, you would basically see a giantic hole in it. Also the titanic would have almost had a complete deah toll, since the explosion woiuld have torn apart the hulls super structure, causing the ship to immediately break up.
BUT to create a 'folded in' scenario you'd have to strike the hull with a non-explosive torpedo, and hit it on a VERY specific angle. As such the tech did not exist in 1912, and is unlikely to be used in todays warfare, why spend billions of dollars on a precise targeting and navigational systems, when you can just spend millions on better warheads to blow things up better?
Originally posted by Argyll
reply to post by muzzleflash
All interesting enough, and definitely "bog standard" conspiracy material......but in my opinion Titanic hit an Iceberg.
No conspiracy......just a tragedy.