What is the flash before the plane hits the building?

Originally posted by pteridine
reply to post by webpirate

 

What would a "round fired from the plane" do? The plane was the biggest projectile available and a small cannon shell wouldn't add to the effect of the impact.

I in no way, shape or form condone the idea that a "round" of any kind was fired from the front of any of the two airplanes which crashed into wtc buildings 1 & 2. With that out of the way, let me say that the structure of an airplane is much weaker than the structure of say a 120mm projectile (common tank round). A 120mm projectile is a dense chunk of metal which IF fired from a moving plane would be traveling well over 600 feet per second, MUCH faster than the plane would be traveling. A projectile from even a .50 cal rifle can rip your body apart just from passing next to you, with out a direct hit. A 120mm projectile is just under ten times larger than a .50 cal bullet. The amount of force would absolutely destroy a large section of wall around the impact zone. This is all hypothetical still and did not happen.

Originally posted by TheMindWar
Explosives of some kind, probably from the pod on the underbelly of the plane which should not be there

Some idiots even say, "err its a build up of static electricity". This is obviously incorrect and total baloney since the nose of the plane is very thin fiberglass and non conductive

Not that I think static electricity is the most likely culperate for the flash....but nonetheless.....Why should the conductivity of the nose have anything to do with Static Electricity?

I don't think you understand how static electricity works, friend.....It's easily built up on non-conductive surfaces due to friction.....Remember that old trick of rubbing a rubber balloon on your head and then sticking it to the wall....that's static electricity. Conductivity is simply a medium through which charge moves....Static electricity can indeed cause luminescent phenonon around things like wooden ships masts. It's called St.Elmos Fire.
Oh and it can also build up to quite high levels on things like the cabin of a plane....as this video shows

For Christ's sake, GEORGE BUSH DID NOT BLOW UP THE WORLD TRADE CENTER. Neither did Cheney, The Military Industrial Complex, Bush Sr., Aliens, OR anybody or anything else besides the 19 Radical Muslims
That everyone knows about. It's like the Kennedy Assasination....people, LET IT GO!!! Just because YOU think something strange happened does not mean it did. Man, I am sooo sick of this crap, that's why I have NEVER visited ATS's Conspiracies sections. Some people find conspiracies around every corner, all their lives. Sorry, I'm not drinking the Cool Aid and you could use some "Me" time, in front of a mirror. The Truth is blunt, it hurts,
it's not pretty and it is what it is.....Truth. People do not handle it well and that's expected but, sooner or later
it will be seen for what is.

Originally posted by Dystopiaphiliac


let me say that the structure of an airplane is much weaker than the structure of say a 120mm projectile

The object in the photo below was traveling at 800 feet per second when it struck the building and absolutely dwarfs a puny little 120mm projectile

I fear living in a world where folks believe the plane 'went through the building undamaged, exiting the other side,' and are also allowed to vote, have kids, and operate machinery. Are people seriously this disconnected from reality that they can watch 50 videos of an event and still completely miss what happened?

The Truth is blunt, it hurts,
it's not pretty and it is what it is.....Truth. People do not handle it well and that's expected but, sooner or later
it will be seen for what is.

So why the visit ?

Theres alot of facts it seems youve missed out on .... fox and cnn doesnt show you half of the stuff thats been uncovered. It was an inside job ... look into it , look closer , dont just accept the first thing your told.

reply to post by waypastvne


dude it wasnt the oxygen tank ......... why would it explode ? at that exact time ?

I would make the guess that it could be heat caused by the friction between the nose and the building at the moment of impact. Much like when the space shuttle glows from friction when it enters the atmosphere.

This is like listening to one of the OWS people. "It REALLY happened this way, you just don't understand".
Help, save me from those ....."Conspiropeople"

Originally posted by ReptileRipper

The Truth is blunt, it hurts,
it's not pretty and it is what it is.....Truth. People do not handle it well and that's expected but, sooner or later
it will be seen for what is.

Theres alot of facts it seems youve missed out on .... fox and cnn doesnt show you half of the stuff thats been uncovered. It was an inside job ... look into it , look closer , dont just accept the first thing your told.

The proles never ask questions.

They just blindly accept whatever they are told.

Originally posted by InnocentBystander
I fear living in a world where folks believe the plane 'went through the building undamaged, exiting the other side,' and are also allowed to vote, have kids, and operate machinery. Are people seriously this disconnected from reality that they can watch 50 videos of an event and still completely miss what happened?

yup...... and im tired of living in a world where you show someone the plane going through the building un damaged and you get endless dribble as a response ..... ive asked people time and time again to just LOOK AT IT , and explain to me how its possible.... how hard is it to understand ?

Seriously ..... your all nuts , people who say its a hologram or the towers were nuked , theyre crazy but who ever beleives a couple of terrorists with box cutters and little experience in flying SMALL single engine planes .. flew 2 747s into the towers .......... and they just collapsed .... is a moron.

I just read until page 3 so i do not know if it was already mentioned?

Imo the Flash comes from a Laser Guide-System like they do with some Rockets,
"they" mark the/ a Place they want to hit with a Laser Beam and the Rocket/ Plane
just follow this Beam!

Originally posted by ReptileRipper
reply to post by waypastvne

 

dude it wasnt the oxygen tank ......... why would it explode ? at that exact time ?

Here let me post the answer to your question again and pay close attention to the highlighted part Truther.

The nose wheel undercarriage was located directly in front of of the E&E room and would have been the first major part of the plane to impact. When GPers say hollow aluminum can, they are neglecting things like this. On impact this undercarriage would decelerate wile the rest of the plane continued forward. So the under carriage smashed through the E&E room as well as knocking a large hole in the building. This is why the flash happens outside of the wall and gives the illusion of happening before impact.

reply to post by waypastvne


you obviously dont have the slightest idea of how much steel was in that tower ..... do you want a link to the blueprints ? maybe once youve seen how the tower was constructed , you`ll see how much sense your making.

Originally posted by ReptileRipper
reply to post by waypastvne

 

you obviously dont have the slightest idea of how much steel was in that tower ..... do you want a link to the blueprints ? maybe once youve seen how the tower was constructed , you`ll see how much sense your making.

Please, get your blueprints and explain it to me truther.