Thugs beat 84-year-old man in cruel game of 'get the old geezer'...

reply to post by Kali74


Why do I see DS in my mind when I read this?

I vote for my homeboy if you add whips and leather...

UK all the way baby...

reply to post by NadaCambia


You made no point. Now you did successfully toss out a few tired old bromides about the evil of imperialism and the evil white man. More incoherent nonsense. What crimes are performed in greater incidence by whites in the US? Tax evasion? Black culture produces a disportionate number of violent criminals in the US. That is not saying that blacks have a greater tendency to be violent than whites. Its not saying that there are any inherent differences between whites and blacks other than skin color. What it says is that the modern, urban black culture is profoundly troubled.

You might state/suggest any number of causes for that, but the statistics are what the statistics are. Jump on the root cause business all you want. Who cares? When 4 young people of any color set upon an 84 year old man, who cares why they did it?

You can also take the old drivel about imperialism. How many years after the imperialists leave should it take for those previously occupied nations to be functioning nation states? 20? 50? 100?

In any event, the issue in the thread is about urban violence, not imperialism. By the way - take a look at the level of infrastructure in those nations previously occupied and compare it with those nations who were not occupied and see who has a better situation.

Originally posted by Kali74

Several stereotypical traits are associated with *edit*; smoking, drinking and taking drugs[21] in gangs on street corners and outside shops, petty thievery and violence,[22] vandalism and graffiti, an exaggerated "tough" gangster-like voice and lingo and foul, aggressive language *edit* housing accommodation, unemployment and state benefits *edit* (and despite this still appearing to have money for show),[22] teenage girls being sexually promiscuous and smoking whilst pregnant,[23][24] driving a highly modified and chromed up *edit* (in particular)*edit*[25] Ford Sierra, Ford Escort[26] or *edit* usually souped up with alloys, stickers, oversized spoiler, side panels, exhaust pipe and engine,[27] painted white or in some shocking color, enhanced speakers blasting hip-hop, R&B *edit* and chewing whilst being spoken to. Stereotypical *edit*

This is an article from wikipedia. My challenge to all of you is to identify the ethnic group it is referencing. I will post the article unedited and with a link, shortly.

so, would this be the UK version of "gangsters" known as "chavs"? no racial implications needed.

Originally posted by buddha
any one remember long ago when they set fire to homeless people?
the cowerds just like to attack the weak.

As the song goes..."kick em when there up" (lindsay lohan for example)..."kick em when there down" (homeless people for example)

Seventy percent of long-term prison inmates grew up in broken homes. (Horn, Bush, “Fathers, Marriage and Welfare Reform)


A large percentage of "you know who's" are raised in fatherless homes,with no authority figure and these punks push their moms around and run wild in the streets...

It's their parents fault...In a lot of cases

A Clockwork Orange inspired plenty of violence.Why Kubrick made this is beyond me.It was a lame book and a lame movie and it actually did inspire idiots to violence.
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reply to post by ColoradoJens


no i dont really care that much

reply to post by ColoradoJens


yes because they commit more crimes as compared to other races,and like i said im half black,i just see things as they are,you on the other hand reflect the moronic left , right paradigm.good job dummy.

Seventy percent of long-term prison inmates grew up in broken homes. (Horn, Bush, “Fathers, Marriage and Welfare Reform)

A large percentage of "you know who's" are raised in fatherless homes,with no authority figure and these punks push their moms around and run wild in the streets...

Forty percent of children growing up in America today are being raised without their fathers. (Wade, Horn and Busy, “Fathers, Marriage and Welfare Reform” Hudson Institute Executive Briefing, 1997)

It is even higher now,thanx to the american "injustice" system...backing up one gender and walking all over the other gender...

reply to post by yyzyyz123


Hurts to be called a racists, yes? I would imagine being a mixed racist is even more difficult. Neeto on you for being half black. Your pointing out a political affiliation is another example of the corralations made in this thread...how you can deduce anything about my politics is a tribute to your oversized brain.
Again, you are right. And because you are half black, we are talking about you. You are half of what everyone above has said, including yourself, just based on your race mix. Sucks, but here at ATS, your skin color DOES matter.

CJ

Originally posted by Kali74
I don't know what disgusts me more, the crime or the racist spin of the OP. Where is your scientific evidence that blacks are more violent than whites? What is different about their brains, brain chemistry, testosterone levels or physiology in general? Nothing? Skin color is all?

Gosh, deny ignorance right? Disproportionate numbers are a direct reflection of a disproportionate amount of blacks in poverty. Compare some numbers of ethnic groups (including whites) that commit these type of thuggish crimes. Then compare those numbers to people in those ethnic groups under the age of 25 that are below the poverty line. You will find correlation. That is unless you'd rather keep eating the propaganda that helps keep us divided and unless you prefer to be a racist pig.

Sorry, read this on the first page and didn't read the rest... yet. But there is scientific evidence that blacks have higher testosterone levels than all other races. And blacks have higher estradiol levels than other races and estradiol is responsible for bone mass. (Google is your friend, use it.).

Hispanics (the majority of whom consider themselves non-whites) are also considered "whites" in the majority of crime statistics and surveys and what have you.

food for thought.

I just thought I had to add that to further your knowledge.

I am sorry if someone else had already brought this up.

Originally posted by StealthyKat
reply to post by 547000

 

Please don't misunderstand me....I'm not trying to start an argument and mess up this thread. But I think it's wrong to say one race is more violent than another. There are good and bad in every race. I don't want to argue, so I'll leave it at that.

edit on 10/21/2011 by StealthyKat because: (no reason given)

The FBI bureau of crime statitics says other wise. There was also a case in Texas where a man got off on manslaughter charges (or charges similiar to that) and got a lesser charge because the man that he killed was black. His lawyer used the fact that blacks are more violent than other races as his reasoning and it got him lesser charges. That man also happened to be black as well.

Originally posted by ColoradoJens
Racists are the first to say they aren't racist.

I have to ask ...

Who are the first ones to say they are racist?

If someone says they aren't racist, then that means they are. So, the only way to not be racist is to declare that you are a racist?

Looks like we had the Klan all wrong.


Just a little humor, don't take it seriously.

reply to post by TreadUpon


The old man was probably mistaken. His attackers were clearly illegals

Bring back the stocks.
Have lots of rotten eggs and tomatoes handy, and peg away.
Maybe they will think twice next time they get such an idea.

Better still, just execute them...publicly.

Originally posted by blocula
Their race has nothing to do with why they did it... The only thing shocking is that people still seem to have issues with race, in this day and age.
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Their race has nothing to do with it...thats correct...It's the double standard public reaction that is the issue.

When an old white guy is beaten by blacks...The story will just casually drift out of the headlines...

But when an old black man is beaten by whites...The story will explode across the headlines and will be used to fan the flames of racial hatred

EXACTLY!

But then again anyone that thinks a country can survive without being a "nation" they are either delusional or bent on destruction.

FYI the multicultural agenda is a tool of the zionists that are bent on destroying the white race, it is a form of genocide. You don't see oriential, african, or even god forbid the zionists allow in hordes of alien races to their nation you only see it being forced upon white nations.

reply to post by NadaCambia


If race isn't a factor in crime, then neither is gender....and you are sexist if you take notice that men are generally more violent than women.

People who simply notice the disproportionate crime rates are treated as worse than the criminal thugs themselves. People who deny the reality of race and race relations are even crazier than those who think the universe is only 6,000 years old. There can NEVER be improvement in the civility and safety of this country as long as there are people who will not face reality.

I'm sure those morons didn't have an ounce of regret when they were beating the crap out of him. Wait until they get caught and realize, there's no honor in picking on the weak.

There are actually old men who are World War 2 and Korean veterans that are attacked in this same way and that is unforgivable.Anyone who beats or kills a veteran of a foreign war should be ruthlessly eliminated.

FYI the multicultural agenda is a tool of the zionists that are bent on destroying the white race, it is a form of genocide. You don't see oriential, african, or even god forbid the zionists allow in hordes of alien races to their nation you only see it being forced upon white nations
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Then walk down the street in New York City...

It is more than a little obvious whats going on...